Yuri's Diagonal Grip

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  1. Dave G Ct, Apr 29, 2017

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    Lot of interest lately in the Diagonal Grip led by Full Press seeing it displayed on another video.Now with this grip you around only touching the dice edges which will give more rotations and maybe be smoother in flight .
    .. .Big Ben uses this grip and swears by it.Myself I cannot even come close to gripping it In this manner lol.Anybody using it?
     
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  2. driglaz, Apr 29, 2017

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    I think it took me 3-6 months to be able to pick up the dice properly with this grip. another 3-6 months to get the throw off the table perfect.

    This grip is best used from the end, so if your a stick left shooter can have un-intended consequences.
    This grip enables you to give a strong back spin .
    This grip lets you throw the dice off the table which keeps them straight off the launch

    it is hard to learn and will take time.

    it is an advanced grip, could be worth having in your arsenal, even if not your primary.
     
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  3. HornHiYo, Apr 29, 2017

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    I like that grip and use it on side by side and in-line dice with over and underhand throws.
     
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    Very first grip that I learned! I used to toss it from Stick left 1, using the Hardways set, & yes.......it puts Hyper-spin on the dice from Stick left 1, & 2!

    In my opinion, it puts too much spin on the dice from ANY table position! From "Straight Out", you have to keep the trajectory very low, or hit 2-3 inches before the back wall, or the dice are gonna fly off of the table! ( with the stuff under the layout, nowadays)!

    When I see someone tossing from "Straight Out" using Spin.......I automatically know that the dice are going off the table ( unless it's a experienced tosser) every other roll!
     
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    For sure lots of spin going side by side with overhand grip, less with the some wrist action or roll off fingers underhand and zero spin throwing them in-line.
     
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    Also lot of talk about Inline lately.Never tried it but looks promising.What dice set would you use?
     
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    I usually use all sevens and toss at about a 45-degree angle. Looks like a jet at lift off and at landing.
     
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    . I have seen Marc with the all Sevens release it at a slight angle
     
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    Maybe my sanity isn't as bad I thought?
     
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    More spin, no win. Just MHO.
     
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    Ya and if they stay in that formation and land on the lower rear corner they will split and run off in a V-formation.
     
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    Reminder: This is the Dice Influencing section.
     
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    For the life of me when I attempt to set them they slip all over.You end up stacking them but they seem a little off
     
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    Does a bouncy table help with an All Sevens set? Believe it would
     
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    Ya... I agree; too much spin seems to promote short rolls.
     
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    Oooooh, now I "understand". "Stay sane my friends".
     
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    My guess is too bouncy is similar to too much spin. I prefer hard surfaces.
     
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    It takes practice to get them on edge and pick them up. A light touch / grip helps. The diagonal grip and in-line dice have been around for a very long time.
     
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    What the hell does this question have to do with a former Chairman of the Communist Party of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics -- Yuri Vladimirovich Andropov? Don't tell me he had played craps with the capitalist/imperialists.

    Excuse my ignorance, is this diagonal set-up the same as stacking?
     
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  20. HornHiYo, Apr 29, 2017

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    No. Stacking is different. This is more like in-line except instead of gripping on the faces ya tip the dice over on edge and grip the edges.
     
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