Youtube Bone Thrower

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  1. tabletop123, Jan 12, 2019

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    Why would I want to do THAT? Here's a guy that's trying to help me out of a shooting slump, & I've been communicating with the guy since my association with Axis Power craps? Ain't gonna happen.

    I CANNOT get involved or concern myself with what ( G) did, or did not do to others. The guy has treated me fair, & square & all of that....." He's gonna eventually stab you in the back too" bullshit.....Don't believe it.

    Without knowing any particulars about ( G's) " falling out" with others.....I would GUESS it's because he takes a " No nonsense" approach to the game of craps, & he's a " in your face" type of guy.

    Case in point: As I was stinking up his table yesterday with a dazzling display of " Bricks" ( less than stellar tosses), he said: " Top, you just don't listen". Now, had anyone else given that advice?.......I would have told them to KISS MY ASS!

    I think that maybe the problem is that you guys want ( G) to associate himself with bullshit. Nice house, beautiful wife, great Career, & a deft toss......there's simply no time for the nonsense.
     
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  2. Dave G Ct, Jan 13, 2019

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    Is your name TDB?
    Answer your own mail
     
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  3. tabletop123, Jan 13, 2019

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    Remember the T.V. show called 60, minutes with Harry Reasoner?

    Well, Dave.....YOU are one of those guys that takes an hour, & a half to watch a 60 minute. T.V.,show.
     
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  4. Dave G Ct, Jan 13, 2019

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    Let's hope you stay on the rails this time.Keep from going full tilt.Where did you get that helicopter toss from?
     
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  5. Mssthis1, Jan 13, 2019

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    G takes a similar approach as I do. If you want to have a rational conversation, you'll get it. If you want to talk trash, play games and sling mud well, I have 28 years experience in the military and factory floors. I can kick your ass if that's the road you want to take as there isn't many games or scams or comments I haven't seen or heard. If you're lucky, I'll just ignore you if you insist on always taking the low road.
     
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  6. twodicebilly, Jan 13, 2019

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    Thank you

    End of story...…….


    TDB
     
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  7. tabletop123, Jan 13, 2019

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    Your Welcome.
     
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  8. tabletop123, Jan 13, 2019

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    From ( G)....however, as with anything......it aint currently working.

    Thought I had it all figured out. Back to the drawing board. It was fun while it lasted.
     
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  9. Dave G Ct, Jan 13, 2019

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    Top you have a flawless OH toss.Why won't it work? Got a call last night from LV.- your name came up.
     
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  10. James Hall, Jan 13, 2019

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    Top good advice is good advice regardless where it comes from.
     
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  11. twodicebilly, Jan 13, 2019

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    Maybe your shot is working,

    Think back over what you said about what happened when you played with G.

    This is your indication...….


    He absolutely CRUSHED the 9 during the first session, & it was the 6/8 the second session with the 4 & 10 not far behind,( eight 4's, & 10's per 36 tosses).

    Everything I believe and have learned about how to beat the game is contained
    in your sentence..

    The main thing is to repeat...getting way to many 3/4 4/3 perfect, your shot is working,
    now change the set to get payable numbers, your start with a 6/4 4/6 set and get
    short rolls with 6/1 1/6 perfect...its working ,now adjust

    G's shot is changing a tad, but consistent enough that day to give you more 9's, the next day more 6 & 8.... a slightly changing shot is not f...up.....it is just the way it is, and if you
    match your sets or betting to your shot, you going to win more than not.

    G seems to bet across....so his betting style takes advantage even if his shot changes
    a tad.

    The dice classes teach us, all you need is the perfect shot, getting to many 3/4 4/3
    take another class, to many double pitches take another class.

    Now you can do that, or you can take advantage of what your doing and make it
    work for you.

    TDB
     
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  12. DeMango, Jan 13, 2019

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    Write it down. Me and Billy agree.
     
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  13. tabletop123, Jan 13, 2019

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    Billy, it was just an " off" day for me. Flipped a die forward, & started to get better results but unfortunately, I made the adjustment too late into the session.

    We were doing the beat the probability thingy....less than six 7's per 36 rolls. I already had accumulated four bad 7's before I clicked my right die forward.

    Trust me.....I know all about making vertical, & lateral adjustments from Linaway's material. I was stubborn & should have made the adjustment after two bad 7's in only nine tosses. Lol

    What really knocked me to the floor was that the first session that ( G) tossed....75% of his outcomes were in Group 2, & even with the other 25% falling into a group 1 array.....he only had one 7 in 36 tosses.

    Now, ( G) doesn't give a Rat's Ass regarding Group Outcomes, but you, & I know that having your results ending up in a group 2 setting is almost UNREAL!!!

    I recall Linaway giving Rick a Shooter's profiles & he said that Rick had a 3:1 ratio ( Group 2) results .....can't remember if it was 36 or 72 tosses....which is also performing at a 75% clip.

    Spin it any way that you'd like, but 75% Group 2 ending results is excellent shooting.
     
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  14. tabletop123, Jan 13, 2019

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    Naw....I don't have a flawless ANYTHING these days. The arthritic bad hand killed most of my ability, & agility, so.....I just keep trying different tosses, trying to find a comfort zone. Helicopter was working, & suddenly it was devoid of the much needed hyper spin & crashed. Shit happens.

    Unfortunately, I cannot employ the traditional finger grip tosses. I think I'm gonna learn to toss from a cup & just play backgammon. Lol

    On a more serious note.....I'll hang in there. Too much time invested to quit.
     
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  15. tabletop123, Jan 13, 2019

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    Lol
     
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  16. James Hall, Jan 13, 2019

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    If the shot was working but isn't now , you have changed something.
    The reality would be ,
    "The shot works , you are not working the shot"
    This is exactly why I encourage the Mesa guys to come
    by here if they are having problems so we can
    find the problem and work it out. Slow motion videos
    work wonders in that regard.
     
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  17. James Hall, Jan 13, 2019

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    Exactly right , one of the best keys there is to winning.
    During the first session the 6 & 8 bettor is taking a bath
    while the shooter is cleaning up.

    One of the biggest reasons people lose is they never have enough
    money on the table to take full advantage of a decent roll
     
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  18. Dave G Ct, Jan 13, 2019

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    There are some natural suppllements that can do wonders with ordinary arthritus for inflammation.Tumeric especially, MSM , just Google it
     
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  19. James Hall, Jan 13, 2019

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    Right on , James knows what he is doing
     
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  20. James Hall, Jan 13, 2019

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    It's not how MUCH YOU RISK that determines whether or not you win.
    Winning , is in part , determined by what and how MUCH YOU BET.

    This is one aspect of this game that so many players
    never are fully able to understand , even after years of playing craps.
     
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