Yes DI may not be for you!

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  1. Dave G Ct, Jan 29, 2022

    Dave G Ct

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    Yes DI may not be for you if you intend to bet fully on every shooter at the table.Gee afraid to miss out on that big roll? Just add up all the short hand losses and see how good your shooting must be to overcome those losses.

    Just maybe you have bad eye & hand coordination. No DI cannot be taught to everyone. So use good MM and strong betting strategies and win that way.

    Maybe you do have DI talent but you overbet your hand running into MM issues.Or you aggressively press your bets without realizing 88% of your hands will be under twice your SRR. Hey pal you better get net after 2 hits since there are a lot of hands with 8-12 numbers rolled.

    Many DI settle for sub optimal shooting ops.Yeah too excited needs to get into action. No reguard to the physics of the game. So if you don't have the patience maybe DI is not for you!

    Finally I rather have few DI ers. WTF needs the wannabees?
     
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  2. twodicebilly, Jan 31, 2022

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    Dave

    Not sure i see a reason for this post. I am not going to be Tiger Woods, does
    that mean i cant be a good golfer?, or i cant be Phil Ivey, does that mean i
    cant be a good poker player?

    I have taken five GTC classes, two LJ classes and others, and to be honest
    I have always seen real improvement in students shots in just 2 days.

    I have zero talent, and i got pretty good at this, last night took couple of throws
    to get my set right and location right on that new plastic top craps table and did well,
    nice rolls. My average hand last night was 15, so to say 88% of my hands will
    be under 30 ?????

    So far i have not seen anything suggesting your a DI, nothing to suggest you
    have the table credits to be policing other players and i sure as hell so no proof
    and will never see any that your net after 2 rolls.

    Maybe it is time to show your talent and achievements before you make statements
    like these......Finally I rather have few DI ers. WTF needs the wannabees?

    Remember even good Di's were once wannabees

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  3. Dave G Ct, Jan 31, 2022

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    TDB

    The post is directed at people who have tried DI and consequently failed. I give the main reasons why. If you are happy with your game - fine,!
     
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    like i said, are you an accomplished DI ??????

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  5. Dave G Ct, Jan 31, 2022

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    Can we say " Net Positive'. Can we say 6 point Fire Bet and a few 5' s? As MP remarked " Dave I really like what I am seeing'
     
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    "I'm net positive" sounds like Biden thumping his chest for a GDP that is all medical, government and inflation. Lol.

    My definition of a DI is someone who is making more money playing craps than they could make at a 9-5 job. On a consistent basis.

    The Walmart door greeter is kicking your ass in that metric.

    I have no desire to be a DI. I can enjoyably make plenty of money with a career I enjoy. Casinos are full of smelly wierdos. I don't go for the socializing. All my friends either don't gamble or have checked out.

    If they would ever legalize online gambling so I could play craps legally online I'd probably never go to a casino again.
     
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    correct, anyone that is silly enough to think anyone that has worked learning
    a certain type of shot should be called a DI and is net positive is just plain
    goofy in the head.

    The guy that worked on his shot and thinks he is better than he is will lose
    more than he would otherwise, this thing about some one looking at your shot
    and being impressed ???????

    Further you have to be net positive after two shots if your any good. I have seen
    Dom, Frank, Howard, Heavy, dice coach, Stickman, Bman, Carlito, set44, NIck at
    night, Dicepilot, Sandman, Rick, Snake and on and on, all good players.....no one
    is net after two rolls as a rule....zero

    Enough said, no one that has spent years working on their shots would judge
    others because they know how dam hard this is.

    For me, craps is important, and practicing my shot got me through a real hard time
    frame in my life, but what i did in my job helps pay for my grand kids education,
    not the craps table.

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  9. Dave G Ct, Feb 5, 2022

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    After 2 rolls being net positive? Then you give me a laundry list of players who after 2 rolls are not net positive.
    Hint- why don't you learn to read? I said after 2 hits which have nothing in common with the number of rolls.

    Something funny about being net positive in your dice play in total? Instead of changing your game every few minutes maybe a little reading comp will do you wonders.
     
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  10. DeMango, Feb 5, 2022

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    TDB making sense? The end is near!

    If only we had a free line bet every time Dave brings up that 6 pointer back in 1959.
     
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    Don't loose your place in line for those shooting ops spots on those tables when they open!
     
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    Where I play Dave is 24/7
     
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    sorry i misread, but does not matter, that laundry list of players would tell you being net
    positive consistently after two hits is folly. But never say never, and i am always willing
    to bow to the king.

    So to give you full creds, provide a report of your play for an evening showing you net
    positive on every hand you played after two hits.

    Your comment is like saying my play ALWAYS presses the first five times i hit an
    8.

    dicesetter.
     
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  14. twodicebilly, Feb 5, 2022

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    this is why i make changes as i play. I understand this wont make sense to you
    if your still thinking about that fire bet in 1959 ...but

    I start with a hardway set, doing this allows me to see what my dice are doing. Last casino
    visit this week, using a 3/5 3/5 first hand was

    3/2, 5/4, 1/5 4/2 3/4

    second hand

    6/2, 4/2, 5/5 5/2

    Now i am sure you dont understand what this showed me but i then made my
    set change based on that data.

    my next two hands ( this is casino play)

    5/1, 4/2, 2/2, 6/4, 6/3, 6/3, 1/3, 1/4, 4/4, 2/2, 6/5, 6/5, 2/1, 3/3,
    5/1, 5/3, 4/2, 1/4, 3/3,1/5,5/5, 3/2,6/3, 3/1,6/6,4/5,3/3,6/2, 3/1,
    4/2, 5/3, 5/3, 6/1,

    next hand

    5/4, 1/1,5/4, 5/6, 6/2, 1/2, 6/4, 4/6, 6/3, 6/3, 4/2, 5/3, 3/4,

    Time to take my money and run.

    dicesetter
     
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    Every table is different Dave. Even the same table may be different on different days, depending on temperature, humidity, the 300 pound base dealer leaning on the table etc, etc. It makes sense to adjust your toss and or set to the table if you play on a regular basis all over the country as many of us do.

    Dave goes into the bedroom and finds his wife naked on the bed. He tells her to GTF off my table, MP said I need to practice, Lol.
     
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  16. Dave G Ct, Feb 6, 2022

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    Still on the Biloxi run? TDB the 2 hits being net positive is from the Mad Professor.Used it in his MP $204 across with a regression on the second hit giving you a plus $50 profit.Or his 4&10 plus line bet which you were ahead on the second hit or his 6&8 or inside where he would be ahead with a first hit regression. See most rolls are in the 6-12 roll window . No you don't start small and build your bets up . So play anyway you want I am not changing my bet foundation .
     
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    I understand what the Mad Professor says and claims, but the point here
    was that it was not the mad professor that attempted to determine why other
    people fail, it is was you,

    So my question remains, do you have any original thoughts on craps based on
    your long run with it that was not the thoughts of some one else.

    Understanding that the average roll is between 6 -12 is just not going to do it.

    Remember what you indicated......

    Many DI settle for sub optimal shooting ops.Yeah too excited needs to get into action. No reguard to the physics of the game. So if you don't have the patience maybe DI is not for you!

    Finally I rather have few DI ers. WTF needs the wannabees?


    Is this the Mad Professor or Dave talking.????

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    TDB How dense are you? Not the MP speaking? Where do you think I got that? Lol
     
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    PS MP said it more diplomatically lol
     
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    thanks for the post, i guess you missed the point, you posted

    Many DI settle for sub optimal shooting ops.Yeah too excited needs to get into action. No reguard to the physics of the game. So if you don't have the patience maybe DI is not for you!

    Finally I rather have few DI ers. WTF needs the wannabees?


    I simply asked if that was you speaking or Mad professor, and if it was you, thats great
    but again what great mastery of this game allows you to grade and condemn others??

    simple question is it not

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