Right...which is why I said it doesn't matter what the table or surface is.... Yeah...I don't need a book on operating instructions for 2 dice. If your OWN words are true...it should not matter what the table surface is. You said it. "Nothing to do with surface". One should be able to apply dice speak to bubble craps, kitchen table craps, or schoolyard craps. Is there a schoolyard version with swearing and foul language? I might be interested in those dice. Ya know...as a prank.