winners circle

Discussion in 'Dice Influencing' started by phat jack 007, Sep 6, 2015.

  1. tabletop123, Sep 14, 2015

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    There is a "However" . Now it's quite possible for this guy to get those kind of results if he's a "outlier" . That would be the only way. Wouldn't be because of dice influencing, that's for certain. Possibly an outlier that thinks it's solely dice influencing? I don't refute that kind of success, however it goes far beyond dice influencing. Some are born with it..... the majority aren't.
     
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  2. tabletop123, Sep 14, 2015

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    You May want to take some of that money you are making &invest on some anger, stress, management classes. Seems that after not sevening out on your second roll in over two years, you'd be a bit more mellow. Guess having all those Stellar rolls, &paying taxes on all those winnings have escalated your streets level. If you go ahead & seven out on that second roll, it'll probably take a load off of your shoulders. After all.... two years isp a long time to carry all of that weight around. In regard to the sight..... its not my site. I do believe a gentleman by the name of Jacob owns it. If you scroll down too the very bottom of the page, you can buy him a beer. Now, that's if you decide to post here again. In reference to the "laughing" ..... we share something on common, because i'm getting a chuckle out of this too. Laughing my ass off!
     
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  3. tabletop123, Sep 14, 2015

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    Oh, & by the way phat, Tdvegas is just another poster on this forum. Such as yourself. No friend of mine. I Normally take the "lone wolf " route. I appreciate your most informative, & motivational post. Continued success at the tables!
     
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  4. TDVegas, Sep 14, 2015

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    "Skills equal to mine".....LOL. Several random rollers patting themselves on the back calling themselves dice controllers. Where have I seen this act before? Oh yeah, at the $5 tables.
     
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  5. tabletop123, Sep 14, 2015

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    Can't wait until onautopilot views this thread. Maybe this phat guy is really deserving of some afterglow fees. Two long years without hitting the brick wall. Wonder if phat is using the old "skipping stone toss ". Seems appropriate. After all, he did "skip" two years without sevening on the second roll. Lol
     
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  6. KokomoJoe4, Sep 15, 2015

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    TDV,

    If there was a "dislike" button, I'd ring one up for that statement.

    While there is absolutely NOTHING wrong with bubble craps, the game is what it is because of the social interactions, many good and many bad.

    With respect to the crew, these interactions are almost, but not always pleasant.
     
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  7. TDVegas, Sep 16, 2015

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    Running a craps table is costly. I know you guys love the table and that's fine but in today's world where every penny is scrutinized by the casino, I'm not surprised many casinos are putting in the bubble. Hey, I like 5 guys drying off my car after it's washed...but I understand if Mr. car wash owner cuts back to 1 or 2. I don't think the table is going anywhere, but we have seen the migration away from traditional tables over the years. I don't think there is a more costly game to run than a craps table.
     
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    phat jack, whenever you want to witness a winning session or type of play, meet me wherever you can when I post a trip.
    I win 75-80 percent of my sessions.
    I don't know why, just luck.

    one thing though, I never bet more than 1/3 of my bankroll once I double my bankroll.
    Im not exact to the dollar, but try to maintain this style of play.
    If Im up 1000 bucks, started with a 1000, I wont have more than 300 or so on the table. If Im up 1200, I wont have more than 400 on the table, on any roll. I will not push my bets harder than that.
     
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  9. Pressit, Sep 16, 2015

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    PJ pay no mind to TD he hates it when people win money. Keep winning, keep reporting.
     
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  10. TDVegas, Sep 16, 2015

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    Your BS won't be missed.

    "I roll 9-12 consistently"----it's DONE, OVER. you have hit the lottery of gaming.

    You stumbled into the wrong site. BS gets checked here. This ain't Heavy's site.

    $1,000 field bet
    $1,000 on 5-6-8.

    Walk after 9-12 rolls----hell, walk after 4-5 rolls. Roll longer if confident.
    As long as player is consistent, increase bets to $2,000 when bankroll builds. Use Kelly progression. The numbers will be astronomical on the win side. Of course that assumes player IS consistent with rolls as claimed.

    I'm amazed how many advantage craps players are out there with statements "I can roll consistently....."

    And are screwing around with red and green chips.

    After 1 roll, might be up $117
    After 2 rolls, might be up $1,117
    Maybe you catch a 2 or 12 on 3rd roll...up $3,117
    Done. Cash me out sir.
    Rinse, repeat next day. Maybe try 4-5 rolls. Still have room to spare.

    Once you've built up bank to 50K....so what if you lose 4K on short roll? It's just a percentage of bankroll at this point that you've built with smaller betting. You just start a war of attrition again with your 9-12 rolls.
     
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  11. TDVegas, Sep 16, 2015

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    This is where so called advantage play gets called out. If you have a rebuttal to my betting system and why it is not wise...explain. Any short rolls and losses will be eclipsed by longer rolls and bank over time.

    Everything assumes player KNOWS he is consistent and CAN be consistent and is CONFIDENT he can be consistent. Otherwise roller is just a random roller----and strategy isn't viable.

    Should be a millionaire by now....3-4 years later?
     
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  12. Dave G Ct, Sep 16, 2015

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    Time to learn the " skipping stone" ?
     
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  13. lone irish digit, Sep 16, 2015

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    What a great looking toss Superdave. It looks a lot like Nunes toss who was getting a lot of heat in Vegas because they accused him of sliding the dice. Anyways, your toss skills are tremendous and your fame is spreading. I'll continue this discourse in Part II but it's time for me to take my meds
     
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  14. TDVegas, Sep 17, 2015

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    explain to me what is wrong with my strategy in post #32 and why it should not be utilized?
    $1 to $2 to $4 to $8 to $16 to $32 to $64 to $128 to $256 to $500 to $1,000 build-up as bankroll grows over months and years of play. These are HIS words. "9-12 rolls consistently". I'm all ears. With a 50K bankroll...so what if he loses 4K on a bad roll. That's like losing 40 on a 500 bankroll. Get em tomorrow.
     
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  15. Pressit, Sep 17, 2015

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    Did I say anything negative about your strategy, but #32 isn't your strategy, you posted your strategy several months back. Buy back to my reply, you are alway quick to dismiss another player's strategy. Just saying
     
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  16. TDVegas, Sep 17, 2015

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    It's not my strategy...but it certainly would be if I was some kind of consistent 9-12 roller. Anyone with brain matter of more than 1 ounce would jump on a progression betting scheme over months and years of 9-12 rolls. If not, I would question either their sanity....or their story of "consistent 9-12.
     
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  17. hartzehn22, Sep 17, 2015

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    I know it can be done at many casinos (but I haven't played at all casinos in the USA). I will often ask for a die change when I have a 7 or craps number on the come out depending on my dice set. Sometimes I request a change of both die or sometimes I will just ask them to take one of them away and replace with another. I have never been told no to this request nor have I met any resistance. Sometimes the newbie dealers are a little befuddled by the request but the box person will usually shake their head in a yes fashion and they will allow it.
     
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  18. wonko33, Sep 17, 2015

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    I'm pretty sure they would grant request everywhere if you are a halfway decent tipper.
     
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  19. Onautopilot, Sep 17, 2015

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    After my "skeptic" post, he sent me a PM. We had a civil conversation, and he explained his thoughts and contentions. Sometimes you get a different perspective of someone in a private conversation. That satisfied any questions I had, my conclusions didn't change though. I keep PM's private as to content, so that ended it for me. No other comments.
     
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  20. Onautopilot, Sep 17, 2015

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    You will probably have no problems getting a new bowl of dice placed in front of you, but I have never seen a casino break out a new stick of dice for a player. That is what TT was referring to I'm sure.
     
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