Video Poker Coin In Question

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  1. chevy59, May 13, 2016

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    I have a question regarding Coin in for Video Poker or any other Slot Machine.
    Using your casino card. You insert $20 to start.
    Lets say you win $10 above your initial $20. You cash your voucher for $30.
    You go back to the same machine and insert your card and another $20.
    Do you get rated for $20 on the day or for $40 on the day.
    Does the casino notice that you have replayed the initial $20 and then not give credit for $40?
     
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  2. tercol58, May 13, 2016

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    I think they only count per game played so every bet you make at what ever amount min max will determine your coin in credit. Other wise you could build up rather quickly. You will not get rated for the full amount of your initial $20 unless the full and if say you ran that $20 up to $120 and then busted out you would get rated for the $120 that was all coin in and maybe more depend on how much you were up and down This is how I understand it anyway
     
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  3. lostinspace, May 13, 2016

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    There's a little screen on the machine that among other things says welcome Joe!
    It shows current established points and 'points this session'.
    Your two $20 buy-ins will have been two sessions.
    Unfortunately, it generally takes more than one press of the button (play/wager) to earn your hypothetical $10.
    Your points are accumulated by so-many-dollars-play per each point earned.
    $4-2 descending (per point earned) and based upon both your previous play (over generally a three-month period at the larger casinos), and the level of your players card.
     
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  4. Craps Poopshoot, May 16, 2016

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    You get rated for every dollar you pass-though the casino, irregardless of where the dollar came from. The only exception is FREE PLAY that is often loaded on your Players Club Card and that you transfer from the your card to the machine.

    So, from your example if you play though $20 and win $10 on one machine, you get rated for the play-though of $20. If you move over to another machine and put in $30 ($20 +$10) you and play though the entire $30, you are rated for $30.

    You only get rated for the money that you Play-though the machine, or Pass-though. If you just put in $30, then change your mind and cash out, that is not counted as a play-though or pass-though.

    Table games are similar where they figure you will pass-though your buy-in every 40 minutes. Every casino though rates tables differently and how they calculate your average play and pass-though (it is top secret stuff here).

    To really get any comps of value though VP play, you need to pass-though 10K a day in the downtown Las Vegas market and 25K up on the Strip. You cannot do this on quarter play, though on 50 cents, dollars and two dollar machines you can do it.

    If you are on the tables, you need to be making an average bet spread of $100 for Downtown Las Vegas or $400 up on the Strip for 4 hours of play to get anything.

    Bankroll wise, Video Poker for 10K/day requires about a 8K bankroll, 20K for The Strip. Craps play where you are playing for rooms and meals up on the Strip requires no less than $30K.
     
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    So if you put 20$ in a slot, play 2$ a spin, once you hit the button 10 times you played through it, correct? even if you got a few small wins and still have 8$ credit in it.
     
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    Yep. That is how it works.

    Typically $1 = 1 point, and 1000 points =$1 in comp value or cash back. You can see now why point multiplier promotions are very much coveted by the Video Poker / slot crowd. Every casino is different on how they award points per dollar passed though, and how many points is needed per dollar value. Check with the players club or your host to clarify it before you play.
     
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  7. tercol58, May 16, 2016

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    so if I put $10 in play it through to the last $1 and win $100 play that through to the last $10 and win $500 play on that up and down for an hour and cash out the full $500 what am I comped for the original $10 the $110 or $200 to $350 that played on for an hour? It is all money I won though I did not cash it out and put it back in
     
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  8. Craps Poopshoot, May 16, 2016

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    If you put $10 in and play it though, you will have pass though $10.
    If won $100 from that $10 play, and play it though as well, then you have passed though $110
    If you win $500 from the $100, and Play though that $500 as well,
    Then you have pass though $610.

    You don't get any points for the money you win, I was confused about that when I started to play. You only get points for the money you bet.

    It really is a simple system, however you should talk to a casino host or slot tech at the casino you want to play at to ask about how their point system works to ensure you play correctly.
     
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    You earn comps based on the theoretical win. If the house expects to win 1 dollar on your wager they generally comp between 10 to 15% so you would earn.10 .15 cents on every wager with an expected 1 dollar win.

    Earning comp at the craps table can be skewed because of the human element.

    A player who bets a $25 12 every roll offers a much larger win than a player who bets 25 on the don't every roll.

    Because the floorman rates them both as a 25 dollar average bet the prop better is getting burned bigtime
     
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