Seminole Hard Rock, Tampa

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  1. badddoin, Sep 16, 2021

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    In most respects I like it more than a regular table. You don't have to compete with everyone else to get your bets placed. There's none of that yelling at the dealer and stuff lie that.

    On the other hand, there's none of that yelling at the dealer and stuff like that. So the vibe is definitely different. I've seen several long rolls (over 40 rolls), and barely any excitement.
     
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  2. badddoin, Sep 16, 2021

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    I remember making a similar comment when TDV started a thread about the bubble. Something like, "I have a real aversion to stuffing hundred dollar bills into a machine." All I can say is, apparently I've gotten over it.
    Apparently, for reasons I don't begin to understand, computers are incapable of producing truly random numbers. It has to do with this and that and some other nonsense that computer geeks are always rambling on mindlessly about. Having explained this in meticulous detail, my understanding is that the computer RNGs are as close to truly random as you can get.
    Yeah, I'm probably a little over my head right now. But I've had some personal shit going on for the past couple of years that's basically kept me homebound, so I haven't had any opportunity to spend really. I fix a few cars for people here and there, along with other odd jobs, and that's always cash. And don't forget, Donald Trump and Joe Biden both sent me a stack of hundreds. So, at any rate, my cash has kinda stacked up a little.

    I've always considered a five dollar table to be a $500 game. I would usually buy in for $200-300, and then rebuy for the rest if nothing good happened. So it would stand to reason then (at least to me) that a ten dollar game would be a thousand dollar game.

    I've been bringing 3 grand to the casino. My buy in is usually $500. I've only had to rebuy once (when I had that big loss). I'm sure I'll tone it down quite a bit if/when I burn through this bankroll.
     
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  3. von duck, Sep 16, 2021

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    It is NOT a question of whether the RNG generates a random number, (it does), the question IS, “what are the machines options (if any) as to what it can do with that number”? :confused: In other words, can it reject the generated number, and say, generate me another number, that I might like better. :) If so, the results are generated randomly, but the game would NOT be random. :cool: It’s that simple.
     
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    after my second vaccine dose, I was counting down the days till dr fauci said it would be considered fully protected against vaccine, then I think it was around 20 days after my second dose I ran down to philly to parx.....I was like a kid in a candy store his first time.....but the plexiglass and lack of spots toned down my play. (but I recall I did ok those 2 days) then as soon as my wife was 2 weeks past her second shot, we went to foxwoods so she could get her fix.
     
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  5. von duck, Sep 18, 2021

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    I noticed how none of you “guns” would you touch this post with a ten foot pole. :confused: Would any of you like to borrow an ELEVEN? :) I also noticed that I started receiving harassing E-MAILS, after I made the post. I’m pretty close aren’t I?
     
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  6. HornHighBLEVE, Sep 18, 2021

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    When I saw that post I just dismissed it as a number NOT random but chosen.

    But lets say if that's the case, the question is if the machine picks another number...then WHY?

    Does the second 'random' number favor the house of better? A truly random number doesn't know what's on the table, it just offers up a simulated dice roll number based on that probability pyramid we've all seen. Right?
     
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  7. lone irish digit, Sep 18, 2021

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    Speed of light random iterations until it gets one that is more favorable to house according to the book of Duck
     
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  8. von duck, Sep 18, 2021

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    What are you, Fkin stupid. Reverse the entire thing. If for each come-out series, you were allowed to disregard just one throw, and take what the dice gave you on the next throw, instead, you don’t think you would have a substantial edge over the house. KKJ tried that same very weak argument, on a similar post a while back. The next throw would have a lot better chance, than the one you would be rejecting, because you know the rejected throw was a loser. In other words, it would take TWO sevens to seven you out. Understand?
     
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    The RNG does not know what’s on the table and which number to reject to favor the house. In your example you injected a human who has knowledge of the table and can make a decision. The RNG is not an intelligent machine. You have proved nothing.
    If you want to prove your case tell us the algorithm the computer would use to reject a number.
     
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  10. von duck, Sep 18, 2021

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    :confused: Ya know, for somebody that is “educated” you are more than just a little stupid. The RNG has only one function, generate a random number, and that is all it does. It is not the RNG, but but the rest of the software, that decides what what that number represents, and then what to do with it. On an electronic table, the rest of the software knows EXACTLY where the money is bet, and then might choose to accept, or reject the number, and solicit a new number. You have provided evidence of your ignorance. :cool:
     
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  11. DeMango, Sep 18, 2021

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    Well when one brags about winning sessions without influence, might check it out, after all 53 miles and the possibility of real craps next month!
     
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  12. DeMango, Sep 18, 2021

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    The world is flat, that’s your world and your Kansas Kousin!
     
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  13. von duck, Sep 18, 2021

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    Believe me when I tell you, you WON’T like this game. It is still possible to win without influence. 53 miles, what’s that 11/2 hours ride? Go check it out, and get back. Oh yeah, and if you happen to see the real DeMango there, tell him we miss him. :)
     
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    So what’s the algorithm?
     
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  15. badddoin, Sep 18, 2021

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    I went down again today. I had to drop something off to one of my brothers across the bridge in St. Pete.

    I walked up to the table about 9AM, and there was one guy playing. His roll was up to 16 rolls as I was stuffing my loot into the machine. He sevened out shortly, and I became the shooter. I. Played w/single odds, and 44 inside. I made a couple points, and then decided to regress to only the 6 and 8 for 6 each, and just my flat PL bet. (I'll say I NEVER do that but there I was). After a short roll I was even. Then the other guy rolls a fair roll, and I was a few bucks ahead. Then back to me. I had a pretty good roll (I'm thinking around 25 rolls), and at the end I was $350 ahead. I had probably been there about 15 minutes (not even enough time to get a cup of coffee). I decided that was good enough, so home I went.

    Maybe the "table" was super hot and I would've won thousands had I stayed. I don't know (and neither do you). What I do know is that a $350 win is good enough for me - at least today it was.
     
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  16. lone irish digit, Sep 18, 2021

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    This is Barney

    If you used your players card, the LID says casinos can now id you as a Biden supporter and is redistributing wealth as part of Biden's new social justice program
     
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  17. yacraps, Sep 18, 2021

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    Ducks posts are more retarded than the gang he use to be in...this we know is a fact by the ending of the video
     
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  18. HornHighBLEVE, Sep 19, 2021

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    While I'm no rocket scientist at least I know what a random number is.
     
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    It is NOT a question of WHAT is a random number, or does the RNG generate a random number. It is a very simple question, and I believe a very legitimate one. The question IS, does the software that receives the RNG’s number, have any options as to what to do with it? Can it reject a number, and have a new number generated? :cool:
     
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    That’s the pace of your stroke, when you’re blowing that guy from TN. Ma’am :)
     
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