roulette strategy

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  1. jeffspicoli6969, Aug 7, 2015

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    bet 2 columns use martingale strategy 63.157% chance to win thoughts? anyone ever use this?
     
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    You are in love with the marty, it will bite you in the ass. The only way I would ever play roulette would be with only one 0 and en prison rule. Since you won't find this in America, fly over the pond!
     
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  3. jeffspicoli6969, Aug 7, 2015

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    yes but the only way it will bite me in the ass is if something wins 8 times in a row, you need a good bankroll and learn to get out and not play too long.
     
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  4. TDVegas, Aug 7, 2015

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    you lose double when you lose. You also lose on the 0 and 00. From someone who has seen 15 straight reds from time to time...good luck. You'll be broke within a year.
     
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  5. jeffspicoli6969, Aug 7, 2015

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    my martingale craps strategy is bet on don't pass, most pass lines win 4-5 times in a row max very rarely does a craps passline win more then 6 times in a row unless the shooter is using dice control method or is very lucky also when a roller hits a 7 and yo on comeout I stay out and just eat the losses and wait for the next shooter that way I can weed out the lucky random shooters and when a dice controller shoots I will switch and bet passline since they do very well. So I don't just bet the don't pass line I implement some strategy with the don't pass line.
     
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  6. Onautopilot, Aug 7, 2015

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    The martingale is the very best strategy around to beat an even random chance game....problem #1, you do not have enough money to play it.....problem #2, the casino will not let you continue, once you reach the maximum limit bet.

    But, there are those that survive those two pitfalls for very long periods of time, and in reality, not a bad strategy! Risk a very large sum of money to win a very small some of money, with an excellent chance of success.

    The reverse, risk a very small sum of money to win a very large sum of money, with almost no chance of success.
     
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  7. jeffspicoli6969, Aug 8, 2015

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    auto pilot

    http://www.crapspit.org/pass-line-probability/

    http://www.casinoinsider.com/roulette/chances-winning-consecutive-roulette-spins/
    chance of losing 52.63%

    http://wizardofodds.com/games/baccarat/appendix/4/
    bet on banker

    blackjack on the other hand is more complicated, double downs, and splits, also you got to count cards so the betting is going to be different but for craps, roulette and baccarat it works.

    look at the math

    A B C D E F
    1 -1 -1 -$5 -$5 50.6%
    2- -2 -3 -$10 -$15 23.7%
    3- -4 -7 -$20 -$35 11.5%
    4- -8 -15 -$40 -$75 5.6%
    5- -16 -31 -$80 -$155 2.73%
    6- -32 -63 -$160 -$315 1.33%
    7- -64 -127 -$320 -$635 0.65%
    8- -128 -255 -$640 -$1275 0.31%

    A = bets in a row
    B = # chips
    C= bankroll # of chips
    D = $5 bet E = $5 bet bankroll F = % chance of repeat based on baccarat


    lets use 8 wins in a row to wipe out your bankroll less then .5% so you have a 99.5% chance of winning for example

    $10 table looks like this with 8 wins in a row bankroll

    $10 x 255 = $2550

    $15 table = $15 x 255 = $3825
     
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  8. jeffspicoli6969, Aug 8, 2015

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    $25 table = $25 x 255 = $6375

    $5 table with $2000 limit
    $10 table with $5000 limit

    so 9 bets would look like this
    9 -256 chips + 255 = 511 x $5 = $2550 way past the $2000 table limit so 8 wins in a row should be the limit,

    the odds of a passline/ don't passline/ player/ banker or red/ black winning 7 times in a row is less then 1% it does happen but very rarely unless the shooter is very lucky or using dice control method such as that undercover guy

    Yes it works but there is that 0.5% chance that a streak could happen and wipe you out.

    Another key is to set a goal and get out, for example lets say I play at a $10 table with a $2550 bank roll try to win $1200 and get out, once I win $1200 + $2550 bankroll = $3750 get out.
     
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  9. betwthelines, Aug 8, 2015

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    IAOBS...ATYD

    (sorry, 'pilot, i couldnt resist this time)

    tom "home runs are sometimes boring" p
     
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  10. basicstrategy777, Aug 8, 2015

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    Bet the last column (with 8 red numbers) and bet black...you'll have 8 plus 18 ( that's 26 ) pockets covered.

    Or....make 2 bets, each covering one of the dozens.

    I also made up a system that wins alot....but it also loses sometime.


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  11. KokomoJoe4, Aug 8, 2015

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    Although a roulette virgin, not too excited about a 5 1/4 percent handicap. Check that against Guassian probability. Looks like no chance for success to me, but admittedly, it is hard to know less about the game than I do.

    I am also a slots virgin. :oops:
     
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  12. jeffspicoli6969, Aug 8, 2015

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    IAOBS...ATYD ? what does that stand for?
     
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  13. betwthelines, Aug 8, 2015

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    It's All One Big Session...And Then You Die

    now at the very real risk of further nauseating others on the forum with this broken record i might refer you for a clarification/qualification of this provocation to:

    http://www.crapsforum.com/threads/wizards-trailing-stop-loss.9148/#post-62966

    the 26 year old factory worker and the 67 year old retiree are the same person...for even more broken record background about THAT see:

    http://www.crapsforum.com/threads/the-worst-that-could-happen-financially-lifetime.8064/#post-56258

    tom "home runs are sometimes boring" p
     
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  14. betwthelines, Oct 12, 2015

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    <<<after finishing the trivial ramblings below, i noticed that we are on the "roulette" board...my drivel below obviously refers to craps...if my understanding of roulette is correct in that the HA is the same for all of the bets, then the below DOES NOT APPLY and danield's contention above is 100% accurate, 100% valid, and is indeed a distinction with meaning...tp>>>
    danield, you make a reasonable point, though not a particularly overarching one...it is certainly true that if you are having good luck and hitting all or most of your bets, then that's all you really need!...tdv's "8 year old" can indeed do better---win more money---at the craps rail than the grizzled veteran (although i think his monkey and his 8 year old are just a bit "over the top", i do understand his absurd exaggerations are merely to make [valid] points...lol)...

    ...your point is often---very often---put forth on this forum: that no matter what your strategy, you still have to hit your numbers!...the point, however, is but too ridiculously OBVIOUS and is a distinction without a difference...it's like saying, "if i go for a walk this afternoon, at the end of the day i will have gone for a walk"...

    the grizzled veteran strategically betting his DC and laying odds (or not) is going to do better overall in the "long run" (and in this case probably a rather "short" long run, lol...two relatively long sessions, let's say...lol) than the "strategy-less" one flinging out hardways and hop bets left and right...it wont take long, is what i am saying, for the grizzled veteran to be doing "better" (make no mistake BOTH are "expected" to be losing).

    tom "home runs are sometimes boring" p
     
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  15. basicstrategy777, Oct 12, 2015

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    Of the 15 bets, they are not all the same HA.

    777
     
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  16. betwthelines, Oct 12, 2015

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    right. in fact in my post i originally typed "...the HA is the same for all, or virtually all, of the bets..." but then for some reason, crossed out the "or virtually all"

    should uv left it, huh?

    tom "home runs are sometimes boring" p
    -g. geist: maybe you crossed it out because it INVALIDATED your point!
    --tom p: though not seriously so ...do you think?
    ---g. geist: i dunno
    ----tom p: hm...
     
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  17. basicstrategy777, Oct 12, 2015

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    No biggie.....it's only one bet. Just breakin' um a little......777
     
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  18. The Midnight Skulker, Oct 13, 2015

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    And only on an American (double zero) wheel.
     
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  19. basicstrategy777, Oct 19, 2015

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    best and worse depend on definitions.

    just keep doing what you are doing.

    777
     
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  20. betwthelines, Oct 19, 2015

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    o, come on now, 7s...don't be so flippant!...not that you are incorrect at all but i am pretty sure that danield was asking after the "best" and the "worst" (for roulette) IN TERMS OF HOUSE EDGE...

    on that chance the correct answer is of course that all of the bets have the same edge (about 5.26%, i think) except for the one quint "0, 00, 1, 2, 3" on the american wheel (about 7.29%)...

    again, as always, i personally don't know how to actually DO the math (not much beyond 2+2=4 in that regard, lol) but go by published data that are presumably vetted by other math dweebs...

    'course like you did say once, "no biggie"...

    tom "home runs are sometimes boring" p
     
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