Measuring One's Success at Craps

Discussion in 'General Craps Discussion' started by KokomoJoe4, May 14, 2021.

  1. DeMango, May 15, 2021

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    What the fuck are you talking about? Can’t you read? Sure am glad the Duck can!
     
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  2. Bases loaded, May 15, 2021

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    I remember when I was reprimanded by James Hall (may he RIP) for using the 'So Called DI' phraseology.

    Of course Mr. Hall was not aware at that time that SuperRick had coined the phrase.

    This allowed Rick to double talk the reality of DI, so we couldn't pin him down. I later realized it was Rick's way of "flying under the radar" as mentioned above.

    Funny when Rick wore a mask, or stayed off camera in videos, only to start talking and everybody immediately knew who it was. Funniest was SuperRick doing an anonymous video from his car, hiding his identity, only to not realize he was visible in the rear-view mirror.

    I truly liked and enjoyed SuperRick's postings. But he had no patience for us so he split.
     
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  3. bonetek, May 16, 2021

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    Koko said:
    "The ONLY way for a SHOOTER to overcome this [HE] is to toss more of the box number he is betting on and/or less of the hand ending sevens."

    For those whose eyes glaze at math, a simpler way:

    If you repeatedly steep-regress on whatever box number(s) you prefer, and you short-roll enough so you lose more than not,
    you definitely can't DI. This does not apply to spotty use of this betting strategy.
     
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  4. von duck, May 16, 2021

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    Give us an example, using ya know, numbers. Pick whichever box numbers you like best. I'll go get my pencil. :)
     
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  5. Mssthis1, May 16, 2021

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    Happiness is the only way to measure success at a craps table or any form of gambling. If you're happy when you go home, you're successful. If you aren't happy, you were not successful and you need to figure out why and fix it.

    The why will vary for every person since most people don't gamble solely for money.
     
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  6. KokomoJoe4, May 18, 2021

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    Really?

    Here is the expected calculation for six/eight: (7/6) - (6/5) x 5/11 x 100 = -1.52%

    What happens to the calculated result when the numerator (hand ending seven) number decreases? Seems to me it does NOT do you no good.
     
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  7. von duck, May 18, 2021

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    You could have 150 throws, not hit but just the ending 7, and if you did not throw your box numbers, it would do you not good at all.
     
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  8. twodicebilly, May 19, 2021

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    happiness is me making money on the craps table and getting out of the casino
    before I lose it playing slots with my wife.


    tdb
     
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  9. Mssthis1, May 19, 2021

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    That can be an issue. I'm lucky enough to have a wife who plays a respectable game of blackjack and craps. Only time she plays slots is if she won on blackjack or craps and her freeplay.

    She hates to lose even more than I do.

    Supposedly the local casino put in electronic baccarat on Monday. If they did and there's 2 seats open I plan on teaching her how to play Bacc tonight. I'm holding my breath because the electronic craps the casino manager told me was going to be installed in nonsmoking by Jan 31st 2020 still hasn't showed up.
     
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  10. von duck, May 19, 2021

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    To say that a players option to throw-out one result of choice, per comeout, after seeing that result, would not change anything, is pretty damned naive. Too naive for somebody that understands the game. Therefore I would have to ask you, "who do you post for, now"? :cool:.
     
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  11. KokomoJoe4, May 19, 2021

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    Indeed, division by zero will play havoc with our calculation, and that scenario you describe is obviously very likely, especially for a sc-DI who just can not roll his signature number.

    I get your point baron, but apparently, you do not get mine. It is the ratio of seven out/box number that drives the calculation.
     
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  12. von duck, May 19, 2021

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    Yes, I understand completely, your ratio will determine your bottom line, and in the long run, I can tell you pretty close, what that ratio will be, for any given point and sister, no matter how good somebody might think their throw might be. :cool:
     
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