How I measure DI

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  1. Dave G Ct, Oct 4, 2021

    Dave G Ct

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    Lot of talk here as to DI.Is it real - can you prove it? I look at it quite simply " Are you hitting more Primary Face Hits than random? I am not looking at Bone Tracker.Great for beginners - great for a player without a dice set- great for a player who does not have his shot- and great for the player who has no clue"

    Now I use the 2-V dice set.Outside faces are 2-2. 3-1. 5-5 6-4. Those are your primary faces.As you can see random is 4 out of 36 faces. When I toss a mini book of 36 Right here right now practice session I usually average 6 primary hit faces.What I am looking for is reaching that glorified air where eagles dare to fly.I am looking for 8 PFH' s.

    Will be a happy camper.
     
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  2. Dave G Ct, Oct 6, 2021

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    Talking about PFH' ' s had a couple of hands in practice where I had gotten 7 PFH ' s of 4 & 10' s . A combination of a lower energy toss with excellent side by side rebounds.Love to see the 2-2 side by side two inches apart and 3 inches from the BW. Just your average perfect toss lol.Actually I must say my shot has gotten better. Will see if it continues!
     
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  3. DeMango, Oct 7, 2021

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    There you have it, mr practice till ya puke, telling us computers are worthless! If his practice results were actual casino results, he would have owned the casinos years ago. Dave, spare us the bullshit, go out and toss them and note casino results. And no more "I hit a six point firebet in 1923!"
     
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  4. KokomoJoe4, Oct 7, 2021

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    HAVEN'T WE ALL SEEN that the so-called Primary Face Hit is a COMPLETE CROCK OF SHIT?

    Each and every of the 36 outcomes can display SIXTEEN DIFFERENT WAYS, so that, when you THINK THAT YOU SEE a PFH, there is a 15/16 = 94% chance that your result IS OFF-AXIS.

    Give up on the 16/36 slash PFH bullshit.

    IT IS WRONG and easily proven/easily seen to be wrong.

    How can wrong information help you?
     
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  5. twodicebilly, Oct 7, 2021

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    if you cant shoot, how can good information help you???? now we understand
    if you have a hard 6 result, you only have a 33% chance that it finished in a group 2
    position. So now what, are you going to change something since you want over twice
    as many group 2 outcomes.....and if you change something, and dont have a repeatable
    shot, what good will that do, random is 67% in group 2 but that is random, so how do you
    improve that to win ??????

    Dicesetter
     
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  6. Dave G Ct, Oct 7, 2021

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    I would concentrate on developing an On Axis Shot and not resorting to the unskilled DI last resort the Off Axiis !
     
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  7. Dave G Ct, Oct 7, 2021

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    BTW on that 6 point Fire Bet I did mention on the next to last shot I told the Box " get those chips out of my way!_
     
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  8. KokomoJoe4, Oct 7, 2021

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    You "DI" guys have things ASS-backwards.

    INSTEAD of worrying so much about your SET, worry instead about YOUR OUTCOME, you know, the number on which you either (1) get paid, (2) have a no-decision, or (3) pay the Piper.

    On-axis IS NOT happening. The DICE clearly show this.
     
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    Koko they pay on ending results!
     
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    What are you going to do if the outcome is not what you need to win?????


    Dicesetter
     
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    In that case, I'm going to lose, just like every one else does from time to time.

    My objective is TO IMPROVE on my sub-0.500 session win rate, BY PAYING CLOSE attention to the Fool From Kansas' material.

    I'm guessing that like MKE roller, I will start to see more and more winning sessions.

    Gordon, How do YOU handle those "wrong outcomes"?
     
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    :eek:

    You must be kidding!

    Yes Dave, this is EXACTLY what I am saying in post #8 above.
     
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  13. DeMango, Oct 7, 2021

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    So you will be paying attention to non random results via Kaptain Klutz's material? Can you say hypocrite?
     
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    DeMango, why are you wasting your time arguing wit this KKJ lunatic. 576 “permutations” :confused: fk that moron. You know, and I know, that if you throw the dice from a given set, there are 16 possible results, that would be considered “ON AXIS”. There are 36 total possible results, therefore, a random thrower would be on axis 16/36 of the time. That’s the way it is. 576 permutations? FU, KKJ4. I got you4 permutation right here. :)
     
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    Affirmative to the random results; I will be paying attention to them IN THE PROPER MANNER. That is, the manner that I paid the Klutz for, although I prefer he be called 'the Fool From Kansas.'

    DM,

    PRECISELY BECAUSE you have asked me in the past, "who are your successful devotees", I AM PRESENTLY ON A MISSION to use the material on dice that I have paid for IN AN ATTEMPT to end sessions POSITIVELY more frequently than they do when not actually using the material.

    Stay tuned, because whether or not you want to know how I do in this endeavor, I am going to post my results for all to see in my thread in Advanced called Dice Related topic #2.

    Based on what a few of the Fool's devotees have told me, I can almost certainly find ways to improve my chances at this random game.

    Please remember, we play craps through ALL shooters at the table, not just when we are shooting.
     
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    Like everything else in life, you change something.........

    if your bow sight has three ranges , 20, 40 60 yards and you use only the 20 yard pin
    and keep shooting at deer, sooner or later you will find one at 20 yards and hit it, but you
    will miss all the rest.

    If i go to the table and find my shot does not produce the same result it did two days ago. either
    i am throwing a little differently or the dice are a little different, or its cloudy out. does not matter.
    I can lose or i can go home ( now i am talking about betting on myself) anybody can have a great
    roll and save your bacon.

    Now with Linaways material about the dice, and Ricks imput into what you can do differently with
    your shot, you got a pretty good chance with a quarter turn of the dice and a movement of your landing
    zone to turn a losing situation into a winning one.

    I know for sure that MK does not just use the materials of Linaway and then goes to the table
    and shoots backwards, because what he does with the dice is 100% random.

    Dicesetter
     
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    Listen fuck wad, you talk to/about me like that, after I wished you well when learning of you exposure to the Chinese virus?

    Ok whistle dick, if and when I see you, and I sure as shit do not want to do that, I'm going to either (1) knock your lights out, or (2) buy you a cheap beer, but not have a drink with you.

    YOU decide which.

    You don't like my way of looking at dice I could fucking care less.
     
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    It’s not your way of looking at dice, it’s the fact that you are now “shilling” for somebody. I know you know better than the shit you are posting.
     
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    Duck, you right. Even AssHall wasn't this stupid. Shill is also a good word. Hope he didn't pay too much for that steaming heap of Kansas dung. Time to put him on ignore. Done.
     
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    I’ve never heard you make any outrageous claims about DI. You’ve said that learning to influence the dice, is the way to obtain consistent winnings. I think that’s probably true. You claim that your data indicates that you have some influence, and that seems possible, to me. A few percentage points of influence, should be enough to make you a winner. There is no way for anybody to know it’s impossible. I seek to exploit dice influence also, but not my own. My data shows that the casinos are practicing DI, and my game is based on that premise.
     
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