Heavy wants a DO-OVER for the Biloxi Trip

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  1. EddieT, Jun 22, 2016

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    You have a very good point, I'm just not ready to spend $2000 on a 2 day class.
     
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  2. Onautopilot, Jun 22, 2016

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    Those people have no business going to a casino in the fist place, let alone purchasing some bogus instruction from scam artists.
     
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  3. Onautopilot, Jun 22, 2016

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    Smart decision! :)
     
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  4. James Hall, Jun 22, 2016

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    surely there are people in Vegas who can teach you cheaper than that .I don't know
    are there any guys on this forum that can help ,
    I can tell you there is nothing like having someone watch your delivery and making suggestion if they are qualified of course
    Why would anyone spend weeks , months or years losing hundreds or thousands of dollars trying to learn something when someone could tell them in a matter hours what they need to know?

    experience teaches us that trying to develop a skill thru trial and error is the greatest exercise in futility known to mankind
    If you want to develop a skill find someone who has developed that skill and get them to teach you what they know even if you have to pay them
    In the long run you invest much less time , effort , energy and money
    I hope you find what you are looking for
     
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  5. James Hall, Jun 22, 2016

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    poor old pilot has no clue how education works , he would probably have gone to college if it was free but he says
    "I AIN'T PAYIN NOBODY TO LEARN ME NOTHIN THIS SCHOOLIN CRAP IS A SCAM I DON'T NEED NONE OF THAT"
    I've heard him say it ,
    not in those exact words , but he said it none the less
     
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  6. TDVegas, Jun 22, 2016

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    Are their DOCUMENTED lawyers earning a nice living? Yep
    Accountants? Yep
    Engineers? Yep
    Real estate developers? Yep
    Casino owners? Yep

    Schooling and training works. It's documented.

    Tennis pros? Yep
    Golf pros? Yep

    Craps players? Documented? Nope.
    Slot players? Nope.
    Big wheel players? Nope.
     
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  7. James Hall, Jun 22, 2016

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    good try Td but as I have mentioned to you before because you don't know of something doesn't mean it doesn't exist
    even your twin , autopilot says he wins more than he loses
    I posted that once on this forum about my game and you and autopilot both said your BS meter went off the chart
     
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  8. driglaz, Jun 22, 2016

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    if you are so talented in identifying fake DI people and bias dice you should be a professional gambler and ready to retire. You should have so much money from your exert eye that time on this board would be nonsense.

    there is no doubt training is an industry & a popular one but when the trainer makes more from training then ever from playing craps why would you continue to support the fraud.
     
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  9. TDVegas, Jun 22, 2016

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    It's not documented. There is no record. I can check tour winnings for golf, tennis, poker. I can see Jim Murren's income from MGM. I can see Steve Wynns. Sheldon Adelson.

    No. He said he has logged more winning sessions than losing sessions. That's different from $$win amounts vs. $$loss amounts....which is what he's stating.

    There are several strategic plays to win many more sessions than losing sessions. There's a caveat there. See if you can figure it out.
     
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  10. EddieT, Jun 22, 2016

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    Well, I think it's 50 -50

    Might work for some and might not work for somebody else. I've been playing craps long enough to survive the game.
     
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  11. Craps Poopshoot, Jun 22, 2016

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    Most people lose, not for being a bad Craps player, rather just having bad habits that eat them alive!

    A few that I see, that destroys most players:
    • See a horn, bet a horn
    • Craps check on the come out rolls
    • World bet
    • Betting the hardways each and every shooter
    • Betting on the 'It's Due Theory'
    Most players are weak betters and don't capitalize on the long rolls, but over exposed on short rolls.

    A good Craps/Gambling Coach can:
    • Point out your bad habits
    • Help you strengthen your betting, reduce losses
    • Help you with money management
    • Help you with bankroll building techniques
    Any coach who has that 'One Weird trick to win; and the casinos hate them' sort of sales pitch, is most likely lying and running a scam. Any coach who says they can teach you to play Craps with an Advantage, I suspect that they are lying or cheating by dice sliding or short throw artistry.

    So, James ... are you in to the dice sliding or the short throw artistry? :cool::cool::cool:
     
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  12. James Hall, Jun 22, 2016

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    What would your guess be?
     
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  13. James Hall, Jun 22, 2016

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    If he is is experiencing more winning sessions than losing sessions and he is losing money then he does not grasp the concept winning is winning and losing is losing

    now those two terms are NOT INTERCHANGEABLE THOSE TWO WORDS DON'T MEAN THE SAME

    and again you should reevaluate your relationship , when you know what someone thinks that is almost scary I would wonder if you two finish each others sentences
    that last remark was a little over the top , but funny none the less
    I'm laughing over here
     
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  14. James Hall, Jun 22, 2016

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    Then I would say find someone qualified that would charge what you can afford ,
    but keep in mind that you won't learn enough in an hour to do much good
    I don't know what your bankroll is but I personally would prefer to spend $200 an hour to learn than $200 an hour losing on the craps table
    learning is not as much fun as playing
    but learning many times is much cheper if at some point you begin to win
     
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  15. Craps Poopshoot, Jun 22, 2016

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    Everyone pays the Casino to learn to play Craps. At some point you get tired of losing, so you either change how you play, for the better, or quite all together.

    I guess you can pay someone to teach you how THEY PLAY CRAPS, though what you need to find is how YOU PLAY CRAPS.

    If you intend to make a living playing Craps, then you probably want to pay someone to show you how to do that. It's not a fun way to play, and at time can be quite the grind where you just want to get it over with so you can get to something more fun.

    If you just want to be a savvy player then there are bucket loads of strategies out there that are fun but yet won't lead you to ruin so darn fast.
     
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  16. EddieT, Jun 23, 2016

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    My toss is good along with my sets, which I have to tweak out and make minor adjustments if I don't want that 7, which is quite a bit of effort. But my betting needs a tune up. I know all the odds and and the payouts, but I just can't seem to stay focused and think fast enough when I try to climb to a number where I'm not at risk anymore on my place bets, before the stickman pushes the dice to the shooter. I don't know maybe I need a full out real craps table.
     
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  17. EddieT, Jun 23, 2016

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    I have to disagree on your question, craps players, when I think about "THE DOMINATOR"
     
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  18. EddieT, Jun 23, 2016

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    Did you mean $200 an hour or $200 a day. Because that's more than what a lawyer makes.
     
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  19. EddieT, Jun 23, 2016

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    Yes it was funny I almost thought he was joking, that's what happens when you try to post on a new phone along with this java script platform of a website.
     
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  20. EddieT, Jun 23, 2016

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    Dice Sliding is bs unless the stickman and box man are in on it, easily noticable.
     
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