Heavy wants a DO-OVER for the Biloxi Trip

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  1. Craps Poopshoot, Jun 7, 2016

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    With the pathetically poor showing of students, and the very poor rolling at the last Biloxi class, Heavy has decided to do a 'Do over'.

    Read about it here

    We here at Craps Forum we eagerly await the trip reports, and of course those secret reports that are phoned in to us by those that attend or just so happen to be in the area report to us the follies and hi-jinks that this group engages in.

    Side bets among those of us that are watching these guys are, but not limited to:
    • The true count of actual paying students,
    • How many times the dice are taken away from the Axis Power Craps shooters,
    • How many PSO are made,
    • What will the excuse this time be for Heavy as to why he can't shoot anything more than random,
    • Who is first to lose it at the tables with a complete emotional meltdown,
    • How many students will Howard steal and coach behind Heavy's back,
    • How many times will Heavy spot Harley and SuperRick spying on him from door ways and entrances,
    • And lastly, how many times Heavy will blame the Poopster for all things 'gone wrong' over the weekend.
    Feel free to propose any additional side bets you want to the comments below.
     
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  2. lone irish digit, Jun 7, 2016

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    How many times Crapspooper, Stupid Rick, or Hardly posts things from another craps forum (out of spite? jealousy?) that most on this forum don't give a shit about.
     
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  3. Jack_The_Ripper, Jun 7, 2016

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    Sounds like a Midday Soap opera lol
     
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    Oh, the antics, gaffs, blunders and goofs of Heavy and Howard all so fun to follow. Of course the point of all of this is to point out that they are just hoodwinking people out of a few hundred for a buy-in on the Craps table, some free drinks and of course to have vacations paid for.

    One day ill write a screenplay about them, sell it to Hollywood!

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  5. KokomoJoe4, Jun 7, 2016

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    "catfish filets. Fried green tomatoes, hush puppies, or whatever else suits your pallet."


    Palates and pallets have nothing to do with one another and should not be used interchangeably.

    I see that the new student must sign on for $599, while the alum pays a good bit less, and that the after-glows are run as specials depending on how many sessions the student wants with the instructors.

    While I would not give anyone a dime to teach me how to shoot dice :rolleyes:, I have no problem with people who can convince others that they should do so and have them believe they will benefit from the experience.

    If you are a gambler, any buck made is a good thing, even if you didn't make it gambling.
     
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  6. Jack_The_Ripper, Jun 7, 2016

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    Shit I'm in sign me up I WANT IT ALL!!! Only thing is I only have some milk money and am a poor broke youth that's a victim of this poor country and its piss poor economy and someone said I needed new wheels for my car so I gave them the $5k I came here with but realized after giving them the money I didn't have a car. I need someone to pay my way for the class! Please send money here:

    [email protected]

    I also have a Kickstarter page if you want the link!
     
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  7. Jack_The_Ripper, Jun 7, 2016

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    The prices they charge are crazy! I wouldn't pay a penny two these boobs, if you wanna know and learn about DI go online! Just seems like one big scam to me... Plenty of free info, plus that $1000 you would have given them you can go spend at the casinos and tryout the stuff you learned online, or even go buy a practice box or build one and get some dice and practice your sets and toss then head to the casinos... But I wouldn't piss my money away like this. Plus if anyone one could teach this and it worked 100% everytime anywhere the casinos would have banned people from setting the dice across the globe! Look at card counting? They know people can do it and if they spot you doing it they will flat bet you or kick you out... Would be the same with DI they wouldn't let people set them just throw them...

    But hey I'm not gonna knock someone's business since I ain't tried it and I'm not gonna tell people how to spend there hard earned money... Just the red flags keep popping up, if one of these schools fronted me and a few other people to prove there is a way or a percentage to gain on the table then prove it and make me a believer understand why your charging people these crazy prices! That's all I'm saying! I'm not trying to piss anyone off or ruffle any feathers either... I just go with the flow
     
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  8. KokomoJoe4, Jun 7, 2016

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    This is why I find it unbelievable that these "teachers" can make a dime! Gamblers are pretty shrewd when it comes to their money.

    Why would anyone pay out loads of money to be taught how to perform a random event???
     
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    I edited the post read the last part too
     
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  10. Onautopilot, Jun 7, 2016

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    It's all BS, if someone has a real skill that can change the HA to a player advantage, they ain't teaching it to anyone else!

    But P.T. Barnum had it right!

    It's no mystery that a fool and their money are soon parted.....the real mystery is how they came by the money in the first place!
     
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  11. Craps Poopshoot, Jun 7, 2016

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    There are people who have inheritances, trust funds and other wealth that is far beyond what they need for their day to day comforts. For them, dropping 5K in a casino like $50 for most people here. The Heavy and Howard show is simply attempting to attract those guys who spending a grand on this is 'pocket change'.

    Of course it is all Bullshit! Its the circus of the casino playing out. What I find interesting though is when Heavy and Howard come peddling their bucket of BS at those who can never afford it. That is telling!

    LOL
     
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  12. TDVegas, Jun 7, 2016

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    Anyone who has accumulated money thru their own doing by applying smarts, business sense and basic common sense isn't floating ANY teacher any $$ for a DI course.

    First off, no teacher is teaching something he can do himself as it relates to craps. There's a very good reason for that. Increasing the ranks of DI players is beyond stupid and they know that.

    My suspicion is those people that are paying $1000 for a course and, God forbid more for the "privilege" of playing at their table likely stumbled into their money thru inheritance, sheer luck or some way where they didn't earn it..

    The only other reason I can think of for paying for this course is the person is in fact a degenerate gambler hoping for the holy grail.

    Quite honestly, craps is not a difficult game and you don't need a "craps expert"(whatever the hell that is) to play this game. A couple books, Internet searches and some basic bankroll management and a first time player can do as well as a 50 year, 9 thousand hours of play so called "expert".

    Craps is not tennis or golf or baseball. The neophyte can do as well as anyone who calls themselves an expert. Maybe even better.
     
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  13. Harley, Jun 7, 2016

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    as I mentioned before - these Snake Oil salesmen that are leading you into Biloxi is a gamble itself planning this far ahead going somewhere in prime hurricane season that has been decimated by hurricanes before

    from The Old Farmer's Almanac for Biloxi:

    ... with the hottest periods in early June, mid-July, and early September. The greatest hurricane threats will be in mid- and late August and mid-September.

    September and October will be much warmer than normal, ...
    http://www.almanac.com/weather/longrange/MS/Biloxi
     
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  14. tabletop123, Jun 8, 2016

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    Gentlemen,...... i say this respectfully! People are paying to learn how to toss dice as a mirror image! It has been TOUTED that this gives you an edge! HOWEVER. It does NOT! Remember, Gamblers are looking for an edge, & after being beaten up by the Casinos for so many years, they cling on to ANYTHING that seems like an edge!
     
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    tabletop123,

    More Importantly, Casino's are Constantly ""looking for an edge"" that will increase their TAKE!

    Everyone must comprehend one of the BASIC Facts of Current Casino CRAPS Practices, i.e. the frequent use of Biased Dice, to enhance their TAKE.

    FACT IS:
    Any Person that would not monitor a Craps Table, to establish Casino Use of Straight, or Biased Dice, in TODAY's Casino Environment, happens to be a TOTAL AMATEUR Craps Player, period!

    eagleeye2
     
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  16. Craps Poopshoot, Jun 8, 2016

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    Scammers look for people who have gotten 'easy money' though inheritances, since such people don't really value the money and are easy to part with it. Heavy and Howard will get no welcome from those of us who sincerely work for our money and smartly gamble.

    This is always the BIG RED FLAG of these scams. If you see an ad that says, "Earn $1,650 a week with one simple method" you ask yourself then, why is this person selling the goose that lays the golden egg? Well, then you learn that the method is to scam others with the same method they have scammed with, so its a viscous circle. Heavy and Howard learned the scam from the GTC gang, and are now just doing on to others what was done to them.
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    I know many people who live off of trust funds and inheritances. They dream of being a gambler in Vegas so will pay these guys to help their dreams come true. Its not about the money for these people.

    All the casino games are simple. Its surviving casino volatility that is the trick for all the gamblers. Volatility, that roller coaster of ups and downs, is what brings the excitement.

    The higher the ups, the lower the downs!

    As an example, the goal of video poker is to hit the Royal Flush. You can get there by many means; low volatility Jacks or Better or high volatility double double bonus. It all a choice the gambler makes depending on how much excitement/action they crave

    Gambling coaching can help a person understand volatility and bankroll management. A coach can explain to a gambler how to work the casino comp system and understand how casino promotions work and how to play them.

    This is NOT what Heavy and Howard are about. They, in my opinion, are simply fooling people to believe they will have the advantage at the craps table where they can play in a high volatility way and win.
     
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  17. tabletop123, Jun 8, 2016

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    I agree, Whole Heartedly! I play in Indian Casinos, so I CONSTANTLY monitor the dice! The field & Horn Bettors do fairly well at my local Joint. Never seen so many Crap numbers in my life!
     
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    For people who like to use pictures to illustrate their point

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    am I missing something these days?
    has this person Heavy or the other person Howard come to this board to relentlessly recruit students or make false promises here?
    why are they being bashed here?
    People who have partnered up with them in the past and are unhappy, whos fault is that? The more these 2 are bad mouthed here the more Im thinking maybe they are not as bad as the people here who constantly, and I mean like every other day feel the need to bash them.
    How bout we give it a rest, we all get the point.
    If you people want to do humanitarian work, there are plenty of starving children in the world who need support and help, don't worry about the people who can pay coaches for gambling, no matter what you or I believe in, the buyer can spend his or her money as they please.

    ( I don't care if my spelling is incorrect)

    If this site is becoming a place for all disgruntled ex friends or associates of others from other boards, and nothing changes, this place will dry up.
     
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  20. Craps Poopshoot, Jun 8, 2016

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    Perhaps the Dice Influencing section of this forum should be closed? After-all, DI has been exposed as myth that scammers use to prey upon the unaware and naive.
     
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