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Discussion in 'Dice Influencing' started by tabletop123, Jan 11, 2019.
He finally gave up trying to get you to go to a real casino huh?
Read the post Edward , s-l-o-w-l-y.
We talked about the come bet and why he should avoid it.
The thing a come bet is good for is if you dont know what else to do????
The thing Betting Across is good for is if you don't know what else to do????
The ones who think they know their way is the best way, are often their own worst enemy.
I was at a table one Sunday afternoon a couple years ago with the only other player being the self proclaimed greatest DI in the world. He was tossing a perfect double pitch 3/4, 1 out of 3 rolls and was too proud to take what the table was giving him and go to the dark side.
I think that is how you said your friend G bets...….I noticed you have not
been getting on here and insulting G everyday, I dont think James has indicated
he finished (every) day ahead and is $40,000- $80,000 ahead just last
year.....have you been questioning G about that,
Talk about rubbing nuts.....maybe there is more here than there
appears to be.
Yep....but Mssthis..my argument is, & will ALWAYS be that if a SO-CALLED highly skilled Di TRULY possesses any skill...he/she should be DICTATING what the DICE/TABLE gives them.
Perfect example is a skilled shooter that goes on a 20 plus roll hand using the hardways set ( 55/44), & 85% of the outcomes show a 6 or 1 on a die, & the shooter says: " See....I told you that I'm skilled"! Lol
" I was PURPOSELY trying to knock a die out of the tossing plane". Lol
So.......you mean to tell me THAT you were PURPOSELY doing something that occurs NATURALLY? ( A die flipping over UNINTENTIONALLY) Lol
Sorry....but there should be a very strict CRITERIA for HIGHLY skilled shooters, besides......I avoided the Seven-out for twenty rolls. Random Rollers do it all of the time, & some don't even set the DICE as they are winging, & zinging them down the table.
My absolute favorite is when one of these GREATS has a 25 roll hand ( trying to hit box numbers), & 45% of the rolls are trash numbers...so they start betting the horn or the field....win a little money, & SWEAR they are skilled because they wagered what the table was giving them.
Bottom line is that when you are tossing numbers UNINTENTIONALLY......your SO-CALLED skill is simply CONFIRMATION BIAS, & the majority of these guys equate a good looking toss with skill.... when the RESULTS of that " Beauty of a Ross" is NO WAY NEAR the OUTCOME that they intended.
Ya gotta " KEEP IT REAL" if you think you are a highly skilled shooter.
Yes that is one of the betting strategies G uses. Same here for me.
The part that others neglect to mention is that if you can't afford, or get queasy with 5 figure money swings up and down, it isn't a strategy you should use.
Same with a triple hardway parley. If you toss 100% more hardways than a random shooter and your beginning bet is $5 you are still going to have negative swings in the thousands of dollars perhaps tens of thousands from normal variance.
Anyone who actually plays craps in a casino would know this by the time they hit the big 80.
This is Barney,
That would have to have been the Supperick, Hardley Horny, the LID, the James Halls, or the Dave Guacamole.
If he was wearing a most magnificent roadkill DI Skunkhat it was probably the LID.
If it was near Boston and the personage was tossing a spiderman underpants toss it was the Dave G personange.
If it was in the Vegas and the personage was wearing a big ranger hat and complaining about everything it was the Supperick.
If it was in the Vegas and the personage smelled like he was sleeping in his car and was tossing real, real hard to overcome the effect of gravity on bias dices it was probably the Hardley personage.
If it was on a table of the craps in a house in Arizona, it probably was the James Hall.
Nope , the advantage of betting across is it allows you
to win a bet on any and all box numbers you throw.
Remember we have discussed this several times..
"Every box number that appears you have no bet on
is but another missed opportunity for profit
and moves you one roll closer to the SEVEN.
"Remember it is much easier to get ahead / win
with larger wins than it is with smaller losses.
Wrong!!! I ....AS YOU CALL IT..... I insult ( G) in his craps pit...to his face. I have told ( G) many times that I am not a fan of the Across bet. I have repeatedly told ( G) that with his propensity to repeat numbers, that he'd be "better off" picking 1-3 numbers, hammering the shit out of them & increasing his R.O.I.
Now, do you really think that ( G) is gonna listen to my advice when he's winning with his approach?
( G) told me that he doesn't particularly care for my Underhand Toss because ( in his opinion) the way that I grip it is not secure.
The toss works for ME, so do ya think I really care what ( G's) opinion is?
See, Billy....the thing with you, & James is that you guys want things done YOUR WAY, or you consider it the WRONG way to play.
Since our discussions, I haven't said ANOTHER word concerning his Betting approach, nor has ( G) mentioned anything about the way that I toss the dice. Now, that's NOT to say that we agree with each other's way of doing things, but THAT'S what friends do......they agree to disagree, & .....MOVE ON!!!
We don't need each other's approval. We simply play our game. Our own style of playing.
However, YOU...BILLY...you need, yearn, crave for attention, acknowledgement. You MUST be heard, or you go into your little " James this", " James that" charades.
Why? Simply because you know that there are only TWO people on this forum ( the other being Eagleeye) that will willingly hug your nuts.
Don't know why you never start your post with " Dear Eagleeye", instead of " Dear James".
At any rate, I hope that you continue to win, but understand Billy that you are free to discuss any, & everything on this forum. Simply remain cognizant that some members could give a Rat's Ass about your SRR, Changing of DICE sets for Vault Assaults, how many classes you have taken, how many hours you have worked on your game, or who you have been to the tables with.
It also goes both ways. Some members don't care for my posts. My position on Dice Influencing. How I bet the game.
My incessant complaining of being House-bound, caring for a loved one & not being able to play craps regularly in the Casinos.
This is a Craps forum, Billy. As much as it may hurt you....it'll never become a " Back Patting, Atta Boy" forum.
YOU KNOW where those type forums are.
So...... This should make your day a little brighter. Congratulations on your recent success. I know you have worked diligently on your toss. I know that you take the game seriously. I know that you travel to play craps. I know that you support any/everything that James says.
I know that you have played with the So-called greats in the game.
I know that two of your buddies visited James, & validated that James is the real deal. The Messiah of DICE Influencing.
HOPEFULLY, that covers it all.
Continued success at the tables.
Any forum members want to take a shot as to WHO Billy's next post will be addressed to? I'll give you a clue.
What letter is between " I, & K"?
They are both part of , the , "LITTLE GROUP" , they feel that
sound betting and the ability to win is available only to them .
They don't like it when others talk of these things.
They don't attack the message they only attack the messenger
if it happens to be someone outside the little group.
I am not sure you believe any of this post.
I do believe you have tried to make DI work with very little or any training.
I believe you are frustrated and just want to pass the idea that no one
except , your MR. G has the skill.
Bad news BUB , he is not the only one.
I also believe everything you posted about how much he has
and is winning bu again he doesn't have the only franchise
I have made money with the triple hardways , I hit those frequently
enough that I would be foolish not to play them.
I have been asked many many times ,
"How many times have you lost $500 on that bet"
My answer was always , NEVER I bet only $5
$495 of the $500 was house money.
You are comparing skilled shooters to random
you bring in Variance which for trained skilled players is much different
than it would be for a random player
Top, some people just don't understand how two people can have differing opinions about something but remain friends and talk about other stuff. You and I disagree on lots of stuff. TDVegas doesn't believe in DI. I don't try to convince him and he doesn't try to convince me. We don't honestly care. We meet up and talk about life and important stuff. Same with you, MissThis1, Demango and a few others. How can this be?
And for the Mesa Smooth Mr. Pinocchio... With all the money I am taking off the tables, I don't need to look at your or anyone else's toss nor am I jealous. I am far more content with my life then you and your fuck buddies will ever be. I don't come on here telling others they are playing the wrong game and you shouldn't either. People should be free to play any way they want. You would know that if you actually played in a real casino.
Who is this mystery shooter.
ONLY THE < "SHADOW KNOWS"
I'm not the one talking about $115,000 winning in 15 months that was you.
The problem here , is you would have people believing
you are the only winner on the board .
Then I show up.
It doesn't matter what you are a fan of . It works for him.
According to you he makes thousands and thousands of dollars in a session.
I think if you had any snap at all you would quit fighting it and
make some effort to do what he does,