Dice influence

Discussion in 'Dice Influencing' started by Edward-ky, Aug 2, 2016.

  1. James Hall, Aug 8, 2016

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    I hope you can find a couple of guys to practice with . Like I said it changes the game If I can answer any questions let me know
    I am always glad to help if I can
    consider the place bet as opposed to the come bet during you practice you collect a lot more bets
     
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  2. James Hall, Aug 8, 2016

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    Not necessarily I have had people come in here from New York , Dallas , Houston ,Alaska , Santa Barbara and other places the one from Santa Barbara
    was fairly new to the game , he came here for two days several days later went to Vegas and placed in the top 10 in a big craps tournament at Golden Nugett cashed a check for 2 or $3000
    another one won a tournament at Tropicana in Laughlin good practice
     
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  3. $nakeEye$, Aug 8, 2016

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    OGH - ( oldgrasshopper ) -

    I can relate to your frustrations -

    I don't know where you reside nor where you play -

    However, during your playing sessions -

    You can do what I routinely do -

    I seek out knowledgeable players / shooters -

    And away from the table introduce myself to them and take particular note of when and where they play -

    Usually by directly asking them ! -

    And make a habit of joining them at the tables when I see them playing -

    The more that you become " sociable " in the casino in this manner -

    You would be surprised as to how many proficient shooters are in the same predicament as you are !

    Some times one has to " take the bull by the horns " -

    And be aggressive in order to change things for the better !

    Trust me -

    It definitely works !

    $...eE..$
     
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  4. oldgrasshopper, Aug 9, 2016

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    Dittos to that Missthis! Thank you for your feedback.
     
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  5. oldgrasshopper, Aug 9, 2016

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  6. oldgrasshopper, Aug 9, 2016

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    Tks SE, James, for your tips. SE, that Underhand Toss Manual: where can I get a copy?
     
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  7. oldgrasshopper, Aug 9, 2016

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  8. Pressit, Aug 9, 2016

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    Underhand toss manual by Dicenator(?) can be found over on Heavy's board, or maybe SR's.
     
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  9. Craps Poopshoot, Aug 9, 2016

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    If you look at some of the other videos in the channel, you will see that he is shooting so that the dice roll up to the bottom of the backwall and slightly bounce off. That works on a 10 to 12 foot table, but not a 14 foot table

    Also, that toss is considered as short throw and will draw heat really fast, so bet big before they take the dice away!
     
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  10. $nakeEye$, Aug 9, 2016

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    I have it on my computer in a .pdf format -

    The only way I can distribute it is via email -

    If you want a copy -

    PM me with an email address that I can sent it to.

    $...eE..$
     
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  11. $nakeEye$, Aug 9, 2016

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    To date, I nor others who toss in this style , have yet to receive any heat either in AC, Vegas or elsewhere -

    The rules of the game state that the dice must strike the back wall -

    They do NOT stipulate where on the back wall they must hit -

    The lower lip of the diamond pyramid rubber IS the back wall !

    $...eE..$
     
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  12. oldgrasshopper, Aug 9, 2016

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    I kinda hate to ask this but how does one send a private message?
     
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  13. Edward-ky, Aug 9, 2016

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    Use the email icon.
     
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  14. Craps Poopshoot, Aug 10, 2016

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    LOL! :D:D:D:D:D:D:D
    We are talking about the same Las Vegas, right?

    The last time I saw someone shoot dice like that, it was not long before the pitboss was there telling the shooter that the dice had to bounce off the back wall, and not roll up to the back wall.

    Sorry Snakey - your info is dated and antiquated.
     
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  15. $nakeEye$, Aug 10, 2016

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    I strongly suggest that you re-read the post that we are referencing here -

    My post # 111 above quotes part of your original post which states :

    ... and you will see he is shooting so that the dice roll up to the back wall and slightly bounce off ....

    Well, which shot are you now referring to :

    A shot which just touches the back wall - OR - a shot that bounces back after striking the back wall ?

    There is only one Las Vegas !

    $...eE..$
     
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    I think you can Google Dicenator' s manual or Google UH toss Dice control
     
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  17. James Hall, Aug 10, 2016

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    who is tossing the dice in this tape , do you know???
     
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  18. tabletop123, Aug 10, 2016

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    His name is Nune! He is another MP ASS KISSER (i mean follower) lol
     
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  19. Craps Poopshoot, Aug 10, 2016

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    Well SnakeAss,

    It is only in the fantasy-land casino that you are going to get away with a toss that does not bounce off the table, on to the backwall, hit the diamonds and land 4 to 5 inches from the backwall.

    I was at a Station casino a while back, and a guy was shooting so that they dice would just tap the bottom lip of the backwall and roll slightly back. The pitboss comes stroling over and says, "Dice have to bounce off the backwall, not just roll up to them." Shooter shots again and the dice again roll up to the backwall bottom lip, tap the backwall and die at the backwall. Pitboss says, "You have to shoot the dice so that they bounce off the table and hit here", as he pats the diamond part of the backwall. The shooter shoots again and the dice again roll up to the backwall and tap the bottom lip of the backwall and die. The boxman then turns to the box and says, "dump the bowl". The player was not allowed to shoot again.

    I was at The California and they where giving this old guy a lot of heat because he had a hard time to toss the dice. Oh, he was winging them down to the back wall with a side arm toss, like if you where trying to skip a rock on water, however his toss was not very hard so the dice would bounce-roll on the felt and tap the backwall and die out, or one of the die would not make it all the way down. The pitboss was telling the old guy he had to toss the dice so that they hit the table and bounced in to the backwall, however it was just not in the old guy to do that. I stepped up and said, "Jesus H. Crist, why don't backoff on old guy shoot the dice. Can't you see he is trying as hard as he can, and given he is wearing a false arm and all". The pitboss glares at me then walks away.

    I play at a lot of casinos all over Las Vegas, and I can tell you that they absolutely will bring down the heat on any toss that does not sufficiently hit up in to the diamond part of the backwall and bounce sufficiently back from the wall. And, if it is looking like you are trying to shoot so that the dice don't hit the diamond part of the backwall, it just goes from bad to worse.

    You can argue the rules of the game all you want to the casino, and they will tell you to 'go eat a dick' because in the end it is how they interpret them that counts and you are a guest in their casino who had to abide by their rules and how they may choose to interpret them at any given time.


    Trust me $nake$hit-for-brains, no casino is going to let you toss very long with the way you think you can toss the dice, especially if you have large bets up on the table. I have no idea when you where last in a casino, however I suspect it may not have been in this decade or so.

    Poop
     
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  20. Craps Poopshoot, Aug 10, 2016

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    Another Fantasy-land Craps player! This board is full of such...

    So, yeah ... you can learn to have a nice underhand toss where the dice roll right up to the bottom lip of the backwall and either die there or tap the lip and roll off. However when you go to a real casino, it don't fly as you think.

    First, they give you a nice warning. "Sir, you need to toss the dice so that they bounce off the table in to the backwall".
    Then, you will get not-so-nice warning, "Sir, your shot needs to hit the backwall, not just roll up to the backwall."
    They won't give a shit about your claim that you are hitting the backwall, or what ever the fuck your your interpretation of the rules is either.
    Lastly, they will just dump the bowl on you and pass the dice to the next shooter. You won't shoot again at that table.

    Lastly, lastly... and lastly - casinos read boards. They read this board and all of the gambling sites. Do you really think they are so dumb as to not know what little tricks and stunts that a player may try and pull over on them?

    Seriously, I wonder at times if the members of this board ate lead paint chips when they where children!
     
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