Dice influence

Discussion in 'Dice Influencing' started by Edward-ky, Aug 2, 2016.

  1. wonko33, Aug 16, 2016

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    Two types of rollers

    1- randoms who know they are
    2- randoms that think they aren't
     
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  2. James Hall, Aug 16, 2016

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    well we have the two random/ chunker categories covered there now
    give us a list of the skilled winner classes if you know who they are , or are you proficient enough with the game to know yet??
     
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  3. twodicebilly, Aug 16, 2016

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    give me a frickin break here....

    Next you guys want to compare is dick size.. childs play... that's what this is.

    There are people from all walks of life that play craps, some much better than
    others... and the accompishments in other areas of life are not an indication
    of your results on the table.

    I queston the motives of posters that say they win all the time and the few
    on each board that have an ego problem.....

    I feel the more effort you put in anything and that includes craps the better
    you will do...

    Right now the world is in deep shit because we are lead by so-called smart
    people that could not find their ass with both hands.... I would think we on
    this board could do better than that.

    twodicebilly
     
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  4. James Hall, Aug 16, 2016

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    Imagine that fred p likes your post he is part of that random chunker crowd
    But don't discourage them without them their would be no money for the real players
     
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    Do you missuse words on purpose or are you really stupid?
    Wait, let me guess: "I did that on purpose Ha,HA,. Good catch Fuddy"
     
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  6. James Hall, Aug 16, 2016

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    now you have started playing my game
    you know when you accused me of misuse the first time I started puttin in my responses to you 2 misspelled words to see if you would catch them
    not one but in this post you misspelled misuse to see if I would catch it
    yeah right ! ! I told you before you moron if you are going to correct me you better have your shit together or I will point out every little error you make
    or ARE YOU REALLY STUPID??
     
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  7. James Hall, Aug 16, 2016

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    DAMN THIS IS FUN
     
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  8. TDVegas, Aug 16, 2016

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    This has been said over and over. You're not telling us you are a plumber or doctor or the sun is out in Mesa.

    You're making an extraordinary claim (as we see it) to us "non believers" skeptics, whatever. Super extraordinary by many standards. Hell, the casino industry itself doesn't even recognize....not several, not ONE of these players. They don't even recognize DI. At least nothing on record.

    So, you can say you practice, you have the data, the team, you invested the time. All well and fine but certainly not evidence the skeptics will accept as proof or even confidence or belief that you are in fact one of these individuals.

    My advice is don't worry about the skeptics. Go play. Go win. The maybe 50+ or so here who don't believe in the viability of dice control...you're going to give yourself an ulcer arguing with them.
     
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  9. James Hall, Aug 16, 2016

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    misspelled the word misuse to point out the fact that I misuse or is it missise words now he claims he did it on purpuss
    great recovery too little too late did you catch my misspell on my reply ??
     
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  10. eagleeye2, Aug 16, 2016

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    JAmes,

    FredP is really that STUPID!

    eagleeye2
     
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  11. eagleeye2, Aug 16, 2016

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    The 3rd picture calls the machine ""SHOOT TO WIN"" & as I recall also allows the player to release the Dice at whatever point they desire. I have also seen a machine that uses Much Larger Dice within the enclosure.

    Not sure how many manufacturers there are.

    eagleeye2
    [​IMG]
     
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  12. James Hall, Aug 16, 2016

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    first off where you set the bar to qualify as an outrageous or extraordinary claim in your mind is unrealistic, Because you have never done or are incapable of doing what I have done
    does not qualify as outrageous or extraordinary it just makes it difficult or impossible for you to believe . When you characterize these statements in this manner it leads others to believe
    what you choose to call claims are untrue . A more honest statement on your part would be "I find this hard to believe"
    the statements , you call claims , I have made were true , perhaps beyond your level of skill but true never the less

    Then you make other misleading statements like the one above saying "the casinos don't even recognize DI" (which is not a true statement)
    then you follow up with , "at least nothing on record" now this is a legal ploy attorneys like to use to guard against a case perjury
    they do recognize DI , they are taking countermeasures now and as time goes by they will strengthen them
    you know this is going on you don't wish to have it known
    I'm not worried about the skeptics , there is no hope for them
    I'm concerned about the newbies and the people coming into the game looking for some help ,some advice that might help
    all they get from you and others like you is a very bleak almost black picture of no way to win
    I realize that is your reality but it doesn't have to be theirs
    I will continue to show then the brighter side
    I will try to show them your perception is not the game of craps your reality sucks
    I will help them see that
     
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  13. Twelve4s, Aug 16, 2016

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    This is made by Aruze. I believe TDV plays one like this. The player does have a window of time to hit the button. When you say, much larger dice, are you saying 4-6" range, and where did you see this machine?
     
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  14. TDVegas, Aug 16, 2016

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    That's the Aruze version. You do have the option to "release" the dice.
    Interblock version...I believe is on an automatic timer.

    I know of no other versions/companies.
     
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  15. TDVegas, Aug 16, 2016

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    Yes. I think the Aruze dice are about 4". Interblock looks smaller. The Aruze version is much more widespread in Vegas. In fact I haven't seen an Interblock version in a while.
     
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  16. Twelve4s, Aug 16, 2016

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    Is there another manufacturer that you know of, besides Aruze and Interblock?
     
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  17. TDVegas, Aug 16, 2016

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    That's your opinion. Not mine. The industry does not recognize it. Some players have made anecdotal reports. Some have reported bouncier surfaces...but to date the industry itself has never talked or discussed this reasoning is because of dice influence players. Bouncier surface could also be to negate unintended short rolling. The dice tend to die with a thud on some of those hard surfaces. That's just my opinion, though. Nothing factual.
    I'm using a visual...much like I don't need to be a meteorologist or weatherman to tell if it's raining or the sun is shining. I see two 3/4" hard edged plastic dice twirling thru the air, bouncing, then bouncing again off rubberized pyramids, tumbling, rolling, possibly hitting each other and finally coming to rest. I see a random event. Others may see something else
    OK
    Wrong. No casino is on record recognizing DI as viable, a problem, something they need to address.
    I'll leave open the possibility but there is nothing on record. There is nothing on record akin to measures they take against card counters...which is ON RECORD. Banning, taking dice away. These again are anecdotal reports and don't qualify as proof of anything.
    You're perfectly free to do anything you wish..to your hearts content.

    We differ on the definition of proof or evidence. Evidence or proof to you is something you did or Parker reported as true or one of your players told you what happened. My criteria is much more than that. Its just the way it is.
     
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  18. TDVegas, Aug 16, 2016

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    No, just those 2.

    I think there are video/slot screen versions...I don't know who makes those.
     
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  19. Twelve4s, Aug 16, 2016

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    This is Interblock and the dice are fairly large. I wonder if this is like the one Liman plays?

    image.jpeg
     
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  20. Twelve4s, Aug 16, 2016

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    Is this the machine with larger dice?

    image.jpeg
     
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