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  1. Jeffrum, Jan 20, 2016

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    Here is a shooting station I built last year. It has helped trying different betting styles as I seem to shoot the same way at home as at the casino, random.
    I have been to Hollywood casino in southern Indiana two times this year and every time I shot I would hit two points and then PSO, not making much.


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  2. TDVegas, Jan 20, 2016

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    Probably one of the most ridiculous statements I've heard on these boards. Going multiple times a week gives you an especially good chance? LOL.

    More nonsense...and you live 4 hours from the nearest dump casino? Honestly, I don't think I've heard more ridiculous claims on how to win at craps. Operated a profitable business and winning at craps analogy? LOL.
     
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  3. tabletop123, Jan 20, 2016

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    I will let you guys duke it out, but if youre speaking Cherokee....... Its a very nice looking joint. Its just VERY hard to win there playing Craps.

    I used to have very good luck there.Had two HUGE wins in 2014. They made some changes at Cherokee, & now its very hard to win at craps.

    The changes Cherokee has made concerning craps is very controversial, so no since n opening up the Box(Pandora's).
     
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  4. TDVegas, Jan 20, 2016

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    If someone is net positive at years end and they want to say it is because of dice influence...be my guest. I think they likely just had some good luck. If they play low house edge bets solely, it's entirely possible to be net positive. In fact, for 2015 I believe I'm net positive overall. That includes a few nice hits with some free slot play but between regular craps play and a couple slot hits...I'm net positive.

    If someone want to tell me going to the casino for them is akin to withdrawing regular money...I think they are BS'ing. If it was that viable, they would not live in states that don't offer craps, they would not relegate themselves to 1 Indian casino 4 hours from home and they would play for a living.

    I'll end it there.
     
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  5. Pressit, Jan 20, 2016

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    I doubt if you read many books on craps, but one of FS's book I read years ago outlined how much money one should available to bet at a certain level. The amounts he suggested seemed staggering back then, a $25 player needed $25,000 or $35,000 to properly fund that amount of betting. Amazing!

    Gambling is a business if you treat it like a business, if you treat it as some fools errand, as they say a fool and his money are soon parted. You live 10 minutes from a casino and I live 4 hrs, and that included LV, I play approx. 22 times a year and you play @185 times a year. Yet I win much more than you, how is that possible So much for your social entertaining crap outtings. When did winning take a backseat to losing? Is this part of the new math we are teaching our kids, it is no wonder we are in trouble
     
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  6. TDVegas, Jan 20, 2016

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    FS got taken to the cleaners by his business partner. So much for operating a profitable business analogy to craps....and you now use him as your basis??? LOL.

    Gambling is a business for those on the business side. The house side. For those simply playing the game suggesting they can achieve an edge? More nonsense from those playing once every 2-3 weeks.

    There isn't one single noted player who claims (and can back it up) that he plays negative expectation games and flips the casinos edge...whatever that might be. Telling me you play advantage craps is like telling me you play advantage slots.

    Poker. It ends there. Card counters are in the group of advantage players.

    There is no one who can make a valid, backed up claim that he plays craps with an advantage. The casinos don't even acknowledge advantage craps play.
     
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  7. Pressit, Jan 20, 2016

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    Hate hearing that as you are a better player. The good news, there is always a next time. Have you been to Murphy? That maybe closer to you than Cherokee.

    While at Cherokee I ran into this older guy who told me that the Catawba Indians will be building a casino in SC off I-85. The, Cherokee Indian Nation have had this long running battle with he Catawba Indian Nation, claiming the Catawba's are not true American Natives, so they can't open a casino on their reservation. Now I am not up on my local American Native heritage, but I'm guessing the real reason the Cherokee are objecting to this has to do more with lost of revenue. When completed the new casino will be pulling from a metro population of 1.5 million, so there will be no reason to drive 4 hr. when I can drive 45 minutes or less.
     
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  8. Pressit, Jan 20, 2016

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    Keep on losing, you don't have a plan, never did, never will, and when you have zero don't expect your good friends at the GVR to bail you out. You are a prime example of the casinos version of collateral damage.
     
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  9. TDVegas, Jan 20, 2016

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    This coming from the guy making prop and horn bets. Where are you again? West Virginia? LOL. Gamblers paradise
     
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  10. tabletop123, Jan 20, 2016

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    Pressit, when i read the trip Advisor on Murphy, i decided against going there. I will eventually check it out, but i'm not overly anxious. Ive heard that its a small smoke box with horrible ventillation.
     
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  11. Pressit, Jan 20, 2016

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    Call it what you will, but my bank account, has grown tremendously since 2009. In part that credit goes to LJ and Dice Magic, and the willingness on my part to expand my horizons.

    If you are not net positive, why do you continue to play craps? Just makes no sense at all...to me that is, I am sure it makes sense to you. Maybe you can enlighten me on your philosophy.
     
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    I was told it is a warehouse looking structure, not as big as Cherokee, but has all the games. Murphy initially made sense because of the Atlanta crowd, but if this Catabwa thing get rolling, Murphy will be much easier to shut down.
     
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    Prop bets, Any Craps only as insurance on a CO roll when my PL bet is over $50. Otherwise I don't bother with them. Horn bet not me. Sorry chief you got the wrong person.
     
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  14. Onautopilot, Jan 20, 2016

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    I am not knocking your way of hedging a $50 pass line bet, but, they are two separate bets, and you are doubling your expected loss on just the pass line bet, by adding the any craps hedge. Assuming a $7 any craps bet.
     
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    what is gvr?
     
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  16. Pressit, Jan 20, 2016

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    Green valley ranch. They use to have a TV show. Nice place way off the strip.
     
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  17. TDVegas, Jan 20, 2016

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    A one roll craps bet as a hedge on the pass line?...LOL.

    And here I thought I was joking when I said you employ prop bets.

    You're net positive in a dream with that strategy.
    The very definition of casino "sucker bet"....and you use it.
     
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  18. TDVegas, Jan 20, 2016

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    I can be there in 10 minutes....you have to drive 4 hours to get to the reservation.
     
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  19. black3car, Jan 20, 2016

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    I have to say...a while back Oap explained a strategy where you have a come bet that covers your entire total bet on the table. I have been simulating this strategy for quite awhile and have had great success with it. I realize one must take in to consideration table maximums and one's buy in bankroll so I have adjusted the strategy for my bankroll. Admittedly, it is not as successful however, I plan on trying this my next trip to Vegas in April. It is as follows.

    $5 pass line bet, cover odds 1x. Depending on the point a $10 or $12 come bet. Let's say 6 is the point. With pass line and 1x odds I have $10 on the table total. I then place a $10 come bet. Now a 9 is rolled. $10 come bet moves to the 9. I now have $20 total on the table. I place a come bet for $20. Now a 10 is rolled. With my limited bankroll buy in of $100 I hold and hope for the best. I realize this approach could backfire in a hurry if the ugly 7 appears at this point but so be it.

    From this point on if I happen to win and get ahead I then increase to a third come bet that covers the entire bet on the table. With the limited bankroll I will still have to "let it ride" at a certain point with no come bet to cover the 7. Taking in to consideration the reason I play craps is for entertainment and action, I feel this strategy will be exciting for me. As far as you "tough craps player" types I understand you will probably not be fan of this approach. After all, my game could be over in 15 minutes, but it will be an exciting 15 minutes! :rolleyes:

    If by chance things go well for me it could get my adrenaline going big time. After all, I fall in the category of playing craps 3 times a year for maybe 12-15 sessions tops. Can't wait to try this. Of course I could change my mind, April is pretty far off. ;)
     
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  20. Pressit, Jan 20, 2016

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    You are correct. I did use $50, $7 any craps, or $15 per $100. The question becomes is it worth it, my answer would be based on how much money I previously made before reaching a $50/$100 PL bet. If I roll a natural I'll double my PL bet, if I make the point I increase my PL bet by 50%. 3 CO naturals my PL is up to $80, at this point I wouldn't use the AC bet, if I rolled a 4th CO natural I increase my PL to $100, and make a $15 AC bet using the house's money.
     
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