" betting conservatively on DI"

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  1. Dave G Ct, Mar 21, 2015

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    Firstly this does not apply to me. I do not play with groups of DI. Reason being I do not trust them and table spots are at a premium.
    MP was just discussing this and I thought it was wise to share it with you. If $204 across with regression is to rich for your blood you can cut the risk with something simple. How about a $5 pl with $25 odds? It returned a 15 % return after using it with over a thousand casino recorded rolls. Sometimes as MP casually touts " sometimes it is the simple that is the answer.
     
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  2. TDVegas, Mar 21, 2015

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    How is a negative expectation bet returning 15% other than variance?
     
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  3. Dave G Ct, Mar 21, 2015

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    Thanks for your question. The pl bet with odds was applied to a number of groups of DI who got together and recorded their rolls faithfully for around a year. I would think varience would be played out during their course of play.
     
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  4. TDVegas, Mar 21, 2015

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    Then it doesn't make sense. Holding that edge thru DI and the ONLY (I repeat ONLY) logical course of action would be a progression of betting limits to coincide with bankroll increase. 15% is huge!!! The move from $5 to $10 to $50 to $500 and up to eventually $5000 would be the only course of action over play. The war of attrition would eventually peel away in your favor much like the basis for the casino business model.

    What, you no like money?
     
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    $204 across is a GOOD bet??? Let me count the ways: (1) if you are fairly to extremely lucky.

    Hmmm, if you hit an outside number, you win almost 80 bucks. Less on the inside. It doesn't appear as if the trash outcomes do you much good, and my how they tend to show when they're about all you are not on.

    Then there are the quick seven outs. Throw in an occasional PSO.

    To each his own, but I wouldn't play it under any circumstances, not even if up a ton and ready to go home. Would much rather place a large bet on a single number, and take my chances.
     
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    I've seen so many people do that. They rarely get the good roll they need. A few early 7 outs and whammo, you're down a G.
     
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  7. Dave G Ct, Mar 22, 2015

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    Gentlemen
    First I am not playing it. The pl bet with odds was not played is the 204 acroos bet. These bets were used just to test them against real documented dice rolls. They were effective .Just reporting what went down
     
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  8. Dave G Ct, Mar 22, 2015

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    I will explain that MP 204 across with regression after 2 hits then passive- aggressive betting. First it is designed as a one fit solution in betting on DI. Obviously it is not for everybody including me. The bet is - quarter on the 4 & 10. $35 on the 5 & 9 and $42 on the 6&8. Each pays $49 on a hit. Take 2 hits and regress to $44 inside. You are now in a plus $54 position which is great and you have $44 in free bets to work with. Start pressing single- then double units and continue to esculate. Yes a PSO is costly so his starting small and continually losing your built up bets. Like trying to build a forest from a few matchsticks. Now I know SR dislikes the bet . I can see its strong point being up $54 after only 2 hits - a great position to be in
     
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