Are you a Gunslinger?

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  1. Dave G Ct, Nov 9, 2021

    Dave G Ct

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    Had a discussion with MP concerning body posture in 2016 with regards to executing your shot.He asked " Are you the gunslinger at the table with erect posture shooting from the hip the fastest shot at the table? I guess I was !

    He said yes it looks pretty but very few players can actually toss that way with great results. Just think with actual shooting you draw and fire at hip level- how accurate are you?

    He says I favor a more relax posture getting over the dice and move my body forward with my weight shifting to my left foot with a very low UH release continuing with that same low follow through to the back wall. His left hand is anchored to the side of the table and serves as a balance aid. It does take some getting used to but it contributes to a very smooth release .

    Now dice schools donot teach this shot .In fact I have encountered very few players with a legitimate UH toss.
     
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  2. twodicebilly, Nov 10, 2021

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    Matt Dillion is pretty accurate with a shot like that.

    There is no secrete to this and that is because we are all different, and the older you
    get we are more different from day to day. All the schools teach you to shoot their
    way. and if you have ever been to one ( i have been to five) you look at all the players
    shot the first day and then the last and there is a vast difference....they learn to shoot
    in that style......

    But that is just the start, not the finish.

    In my view which most dont agree with, is that we change enough day to day that
    most days we have to adjust our starting sets a little to get the results we got last week.
    Sometimes we cant find it, many times we can. But the idea that all you have to do is
    think you have perfected the shoot and you are home free is what helps build the
    casino.

    dicesetter
     
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  3. Dave G Ct, Nov 10, 2021

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    Good Post TDB , yes individuality does enter the picture. But be open to new approaches and not anchored in a set way of doing things.
     
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    . But be open to new approaches and not anchored in a set way of doing things.[/QUOTE]

    Thats what i do, there may not be a guy in the country that agrees with the way i play
    and i am pretty ok with that.

    Dicesetter
     
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  5. Dave G Ct, Nov 11, 2021

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    Yes you have to be the captain! When I took up the UH toss quickly discovered it had many moving parts.We had maybe 5 or 6 serious UH players on MP' s board.I did send him a couple of vids and he responded " Dave I especially like what I'm seeing in your second vid"
     
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    You got me, i was able to stay under the radar all these years.....darn

    Dicesetter
     
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  7. Dave G Ct, Nov 13, 2021

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    Discovered something else.My landings we're not consistent on a toss by toss basis.I expect the dice landing side by side with say 3/8" separation between them.I was not getting that.

    Finally found that I have to have my left hand anchored to my side like in live play to insure balance.Now I see a lot of perfect landings not all but enough of them.
     
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    What are you going to do when you get the dice to stay together in the air, land 3/8 inch
    apart when they hit the table and you get a 7 ?? and then you get another 7

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    Dave’s prepost reply : ask the dealers where the nearest ATM is located. :)
     
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  10. Dave G Ct, Nov 13, 2021

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    Yes sometimes what you think is a perfect shot turns into a 7 out - happens but not that often!
     
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    Yeah, only about one time out of 6.
     
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  12. Dave G Ct, Nov 14, 2021

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    Duck What part of " Dave I really like what I been seeing with your shot?" did you not get? In fact he repeated it twice during his reply.
     
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    It’s STUPID Dave, Completely fk’in STUPID. There is no way to look at somebodies toss, and determine its effectiveness. It’s like telling somebody “I like your golf swing”. A pretty swing, guarantees you nothing.
     
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    If an excellent looking shot were all there is to it, there would be no
    craps tables.

    But keep up the good work, it is important, then the hard work will start.

    Dicesetter
     
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