" Am I am on the right track?

Discussion in 'Dice Influencing' started by Dave G Ct, Dec 30, 2018.

  1. DeMango, Jan 7, 2019

    DeMango

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    Well AssHall is on ignore can’t speak for him but your truth meter is in the garbage, yup you usually wrong.

    Post 85, quotes by Mad Professor and Stanford Wong. Can you read?
     
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  2. tabletop123, Jan 8, 2019

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    Listen.....the discussions/arguments that I have with James is....just to pass the time. Just something to do.

    Do you REALLY think that what is said between James, & myself carries over to when we are in the Casinos? Do you think that his advice or opinion is gonna affect the way that I toss, bet, or play the game?

    Here's something for ya, & I kinda hate to say this, because it's considered " Chest Thumping". My last loss at craps ( and this was playing on a cruise ship) was $85.

    I don't get to the Casinos nearly as much as I'd like, but I've had only a $85 loss in my last 10-15 casino visits.

    Every time that you step up to a table....things are different, & regardless of the bullshit that James spews.....YOU know from experience that what I say is true.

    A person might buy-in to a table thinking their gonna use a certain toss, but come to find that it just won't work at that particular table, so either you have to modify something, or go to a different toss.

    The game of craps requires " Adjustments". If you cannot adapt, you won't win. When everything fails....ya gotta know how to only lose a little bit, while you're trying to make adjustments, so that ya don't decimate your bankroll.

    The bottom line is this....you pick little things up ( if you're smart) along your Craps journey. I've learned a TON of things from Linaway that rings true, no matter how " spaced out", weird, or " different" that others think Linaway may be.

    Fortunately for me....everything that I've picked up over the years can be verified or discarded right in the comfort of my home.....free of charge. Owning a table allows for plenty of experimentation.

    I've picked up things from Rick over the years. Picked up a TON of things from ( G). Rick, & Linaway were the first guys to show me WHY dice don't really stay On Axis like the schools teach.

    YOU know about true on Axis, & faces in the tossing plane as a end result of a toss. The Top numbers are what pays us in the Casinos , & some people don't give a shit about true On Axis, & that's fine by me.

    The problem with this forum is that one cannot " push" their belief, or way of playing upon others. What's good for one person, might be Venom for the next person.

    You know yourself that there are times when your baseline toss ain't working, & you might have to go to another toss altogether.

    The schools teach you to stick to one toss, & if it's not working, it's your grip. They never think it could be the Dice Set that you are using, or it could be where you are landing your dice.


    They never think that the toss you are using is MAYBE just not conducive to the equipment you are playing on.

    Some people say....well I only play on the tables that fit my toss. Well.....you know that's bullshit too, because regardless....even if you play on your FAVORITE table, day in, & day out.....your mechanics are not quite the same every day.

    It only takes slight defect in your mechanics to cause errant releases.

    Ya see Billy, you can't get " caught up" into what people say on this forum. Only YOU know what you do in the Casinos. THAT'S what REALLY matters, & NOT some guy saying that you can't do this, can't do that, or you are a loser.

    You've been playing this game long enough, & played with enough good shooters to know " bullshit" that some people spew on this forum.

    It's only fitting to want to attach to people on this forum that are as like-minded as you are. I don't necessarily agree with that approach, but I understand.

    With THAT being said, & also playing with aaallllll of the good players that you've played with, isn't it only REASONABLE to know when guys are blowing smoke ?

    Having a positive attitude, knowing that YOU can win is a far cry than defending some of the " Tall tales" that you hear on this forum.

    Ya just gotta do " Your thing", don't worry about what others say/do, & remain cognizant that some people simply want to do things their way.

    How much money you are winning or losing is more important than what others have to say about you.

    When people say things like: they know you are bleeding money by the things that you post, & YOU know it aint true..why get upset? It really doesn't matter, does it?

    If I wasnt " house restricted" because of caring for my 82year old Mom ( I have no siblings) ....I'd be at a Casino, or shooting pool EVERY chance that I get.

    This OPEN FORUM is only a past time for me. The REAL learning is from practicing at home, & from playing in the Casinos.

    Truth be told, being " CASINO TOUGH" beats practicing at home every day of the week. Playing for REAL money is what separates the men from the boys.

    Kinda reminds me of a old time pool player named Mike Eufema. The guy could run HUNDREDS while practicing, but AS SOON as he bet more than $20...he couldn't run 20 balls. Lol

    Ya gotta be Casino tough, & have experience playing on different surfaces to know which surface best fits YOUR toss.
    Kinda feel like I'm preaching to the choir. Billy, this Craps thingy ain't your first Rodeo!!!
     
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  3. DeMango, Jan 8, 2019

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    Good job Top, maybe Billy will have a come to Jesus moment.
     
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  4. twodicebilly, Jan 8, 2019

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    You and I play about the same I bet, and I would imagine for every 100
    hours of time I put into my table you have put into yours. Forty years is
    a long time to do anything, and whether you like it or not, the game of
    craps is part of our life.

    You also understand when you get 70-80 years under your belt your a little
    set in your ways.. you are and I am.

    I would add this ...you indicated....With THAT being said, & also playing with aaallllll of the good players that you've played with, isn't it only REASONABLE to know when guys are blowing smoke ?

    This reference I assume gets back to James... I would add most of the items I was
    questioned about were my data, had nothing to do with James.

    I want to make this clear I wont trash James so I get a good response from Demango, and I wont
    trash what I think of your ability or play so James likes me.. and Demango can stay in
    the gutter where he has been.

    tdb
     
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  5. tabletop123, Jan 8, 2019

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    Billy its not about trashing people. It's simply about existing in the real world. Ya see....when you give advice about Dice Influencing, & how to win....it has to be well grounded, & YOU know THAT!!!!

    None of the guys that you have played with gives the advice that James gives, or does what James claims to do.

    There's a world of difference between having confidence & spewing nonsense.

    At some point in time, SOMEONE has to use common sense, & end the same shit that's being re-hashed day in, & day out.

    You don't win. Yes I do. You have no confidence. Yes I do. You switch back, & forth with the Dice Influencing thingy. No I don't.

    When will it all end? I mean, really....it's the same stuff everyday.

    Jame's is gonna save some poor sap from losing . He's gonna show us all how to win. Billy.....it just gets old discussing the SAME shit everyday, & being bored, & with nothing to do BUT take care of an 82 yr old woman...I HAD to put James on ignore.

    If I didnt, I would CONTINUE to engage in the " get proper instruction", you are a loser, you need some help, nonsense!!!

    These discussions with James has run its course.....that's all. No hard feelings....just nothing more to discuss. Its very seldom that you log into this forums & find something new, & worthwhile discussing.

    It's always the same shit. Insider CLAIMS. You liked his posts but ya didn't like mine. You're a loser. You don't play craps. I assault the Vaults.
    There's never any discussions with any substance.
    The Cat-fights are fun, & truly comical, but even THAT has run its course.

    Boredom runs rampant on this forum.
     
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  6. Mssthis1, Jan 8, 2019

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    Here you go Top. Exclusive footage of the "Helicopter Dead Cat"

     
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  7. James Hall, Jan 8, 2019

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    A stepper wouldn't you said you needed one
    12-4s liked your post , he loves that like button.
    I don't know why you continue this charade , you know you read
    my posts and so does everybody else.
     
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  8. tabletop123, Jan 8, 2019

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    Now, that's refreshing!!! Lol
     
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    One interesting thing I notice is a lot of di shooters refer to craps players as good players
    I'll never lose more or win less than any di shooter at any table where I play with them
    I've yet to meet a di shooter who can throw dice with any consistency
    I'm guesssing they are all di closet shooters?

    But we are lucky we have James hall here who tells us all 100 times a day just how easy it is to use the casino as a personal atm
     
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  10. twodicebilly, Jan 8, 2019

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    here is my common sense,,,, I spent all day with a 37 year old family member that
    is screwed up on drugs he cant even hold down a job, try as I might I cant
    help him...now that is real life, and that is a failure in real life I was not able
    to prevent.

    I think TDV is the primary fault of all the bullshit on here that led us to this point,
    I think James is pulling your chain just to piss you off....and it is working, just like
    Demango and Liman go out of their way to be ass holes to me or others.

    so Top where does that leave us???????

    It leaves us no where, no matter what I tried to do it did not help my nephew,
    I am out of options... there is nothing I can do here to put the Ginnie back in
    the bottle .

    If you think I am an ass hole dont talk to me, if you think I cant play craps
    dont listen to me, if you think James is a fraud dont talk to him, dont listen
    to him...….

    But dont pretend this was a site where everyone would discuss beating the table
    freely before I got here or after James got here.

    Getting along is easy, just do it.

    TDB
     
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  11. Liman

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    oh billy billy, did ya ever stop to think how much fun some of us might be having?

    sometimes its a game, we may soon start betting on it. Posting to make asshall post, betting how many times we can get asshall to post. getting him to post how many replies to one post. I think the record is 8 so far.

    we might expand the game and take bets on how many posts we can get him up to in one day.
     
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  12. HornHiYo, Jan 8, 2019

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    You are absolutely right! Everyone wasn't discussing beating the table freely before you got here.

    You are a Johnny Come Lately, Short Bussers have been displaying arrogance and bullying outsiders on this site long before you two inept pawns were recrutied. And except for the Butt Brothers Little Joe Shot Class all other DI schools were thoroughly trashed; Hell.. randies were and still are ridiculed in between just for kicks. Short Bussers believe they can only "look" good by making others look bad; they have demonstrated nothing but.

    It's been pointed out before and the count is climbing. Short bus rides are often short. A number of rejects are living out of back seats and avoiding the Short Bus Head Nut as you type. Enjoy your ride while you can!
     
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  13. James Hall, Jan 8, 2019

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    Game on
     
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  14. tabletop123, Jan 8, 2019

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    I guess you didn't read my last post? I've already put James on ignore. James pissing ME off? Lol

    Are you kidding me? NEVER! I decided to take the high road because the conversations with James are redundant.....totally predictable.

    There's just never anything of substance with his conversations. Learn to win or quit. I assault the vaults. You Need proper training. You've attacked me since day one, Leon, & Parker are in the plane waiting, so I'll see you guys in a couple of days after we return from another Vault Assault. Same stuff, Billy!!!!

    My problem is not being pissed off with ANYONE. My problem is too much idol time, wherein i am literally FORCED to deal with it on a daily basis.

    You only get one Mom in life, & without me having any siblings, & having such a strong bond with my 82 yr old mom...well.....you know the rest.

    This forum is only a past time for shits, & giggles.
    There will come a day when I will virtually disappear from this forum, & hit the Casinos like I used to do, Yeah....it was mainly Cherokee, but next time, I think I'm gonna travel to different venues. Tunica, & Biloxi comes to mind......... only to return here to give Trip Reports.
    Until THAT day comes.....life for ME is just ......PLAIN BORING.

    Care for mom. Toss a few in the garage, & log into the Craps forum, or some other site 24/7
    One thing is certain......getting old with an illness.....SUCKS!!!!


    Guys/gals.....take care of your health. Eat properly & exercise. It might just afford you a good quality of life in your latter years.
     
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  15. DeMango, Jan 8, 2019

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    Probably the only way to get rid of AssHall, put him on ignore. Poof works for me.
     
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  16. James Hall, Jan 8, 2019

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    If you could get them to do that we could post about how winners
    do what they do without all the distraction.
    push them a bit.
     
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  17. twodicebilly, Jan 9, 2019

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    james

    Seems like we will have a few conversations since we are
    on ignor .

    2019 may just be a pretty good year.

    Now they can stop their whinning about any one that tries to
    beat the table.

    tdb
     
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  18. James Hall, Jan 9, 2019

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    If enough of them put us on ignore and we don't get barred
    we might be able to talk craps without all the negative distractions ,
    we'll see.
     
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  19. HornHiYo, Jan 9, 2019

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    Show one post where someone is whinning about anyone that tries to beat the table. I believe everyone who plays tries to beat the table.

    Most of the whinning I read is posted by you and James Hall whinning that not everyone here believes or cares about your stories of how great y'all are.

    Your post is typical of Short Bussers; Wrong but proud anyway.
     
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  20. twodicebilly, Jan 9, 2019

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    that is your imagination....examples of what can be done has nothing
    to with one person being better than another.....I have never seen James
    say he was better than any other Di's I know......ever....

    Now I have seen TDV compare himself to them.

    I personally have said many times I am much worse than the better players
    I know and have indicated I lose and at times have lost a lot.

    So stop the BS and Horn think for a second if no one cares about what
    we talk about then we would never have any comments from tdv, Liman
    or Demango...

    tdb
     
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