" A Change.in Betting Philosophy"

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  1. Dave G Ct, Dec 3, 2016

    Dave G Ct

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    I used to load up betting thec4&10 plus PL and single odds equalled $55 or so.Nice when that first hand hit but in a hole if it was a very short hand. So I took the " Top' s advice and mostly starting with bets on the 6&8 using the 3-V. My starting hand runs about $20 less than before and hitting the 6&8 is easier even if your toss is not yet dialed in.Now if the point is 4 or 10 yes I do play them with the 2-V unless my hand has progressed and I have pressed up 6&8 bets then I will continue with the 3-V and ride the hand out.

    How has it been working? You all know the answer to that.An even dozen- why not stretch it out to a " baker's dozen?"
     
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  2. KokomoJoe4, Dec 3, 2016

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    HE be damned, my possibly temporary/possibly permanent conversion from single line bet with odds to single place bet (or buy bet) has only to do with the fact that I can (1) risk less, (2) guarantee a winning hand with a single collected win, (3) still be able to increase bet size aggressively with winners and (4) have the ability to move, call off and take down wagers as desired overcomes the loss of parlayed come out winners, at least during a trial period of play.

    Hoping to use the dice speak we have heard a bit about with these under my control wagers. In theory, it can work to my advantage. I am going to see how this sort of play goes.
     
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  3. Dave G Ct, Dec 3, 2016

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    Koko
    ...we are both unafraid of change my Seems you caught onto a concept that can change your chances of a great return with your new strategy.Will wait for reports.
     
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  4. The Midnight Skulker, Dec 7, 2016

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    Just had a thought (and as the smoke dissipates am realizing I rather enjoyed the experience -- may have to try it again some time): maybe James Hall really is onto something with his LTWOQ. I suggest that does not go far enough. How about LTWTWYAPODSE?
    Learn To Win The Way You Are Playing Or Do Something Else
    Certainly the "something else" can be something else entirely (i.e. quitting), but it also can be a change of strategy (or for DIs a change of technique), a theme promoted by Basic Sevens.
     
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  5. random_roller, Dec 7, 2016

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    How about QWERTY...

    Quit When Early Returns Take You Under Initially Otherwise Perish
     
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    Certainly easier to type.
     
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  7. James Hall, Dec 7, 2016

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    just to repeat a previous post

    there are 11 numbers on a pair of dice the 2 - 3 -4 -5 -6 -7 -8 -9 - 10 - 11 and the 12
    those eleven numbers form a total of 36 possible combinations

    when you play craps , the house in their great and infinite generosity keep one of those numbers , and they give you all the rest
    they give you the 2 - 3 - 4 - 5 - 6 - 8 - 9 - 10 - 11 and the 12 , they keep only the 7

    of the 36 possible combinations they keep only 6 and give you the other 30
    add on top of that the fact that they don't pay even money when you cash a bet , they even pay a little extra , (odds) example 7 to 6 up to 2 to 1
    and some as high as 30 to 1

    and with all those advantages some find it difficult to win
    FUNNY THAT

    LTWOQ
     
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  8. TDVegas, Dec 7, 2016

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    So...why not just load up on 30 of 36 roulette numbers?
     
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  9. James Hall, Dec 7, 2016

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    try it you won't like it
     
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  10. Twelve4s, Dec 7, 2016

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    Just a suggestion, if you are going to be a post repeater, maybe you can take some cut and paste lessons from eagleeye. This might free up your time for more practice. Hope you're enjoying the rodeo.

    And remember this, LTECOQ.

    Learn to ENJOY craps or quit.
     
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  11. Onautopilot, Dec 7, 2016

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    Actually, the casino does not "keep" any number. You are allowed to bet any and every number.

    There is no "advantage" to be gained from the "other 30 numbers", as you put it! Unless you are imparting a bias...a know bias.

    Manipulations of bets never changes the EV of said bets....never.
     
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  12. Twelve4s, Dec 7, 2016

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    I've been known to listen to voices that say, "bet midnight now." So I throw a $5 two way on it. Once in awhile it hits, when the voices are not fake news. Thing is, that pays $150. Same bet on roulette pays $175. If the roulette table is next to craps table, why not opt for the $175?
     
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  13. KokomoJoe4, Dec 7, 2016

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    Fours,

    You should know the answer to the Q that you pose. You opt for craps because you are able to influence the dice. ;)

    No such skill with roulette.
     
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  14. lone irish digit, Dec 7, 2016

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    Koko, I hope you get well soon. Should have known it was wide spread and contagious in Vegas. Does antibiotics help? Didn't realize innumeracy could be caught by a phone call
     
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  15. KokomoJoe4, Dec 7, 2016

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    :eek: I spoke with Linaway for over an hour on Monday.
     
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  16. James Hall, Dec 7, 2016

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    exactly , and knowing how to take advantage is what it's all about
    and again it amazes me that people play without exploring the possibilities ot learning
    there are few who understand where the advantage trulu lies

    The unskilled player is constantly stressing over how much he can lose so he reduces his possibilities
    even further by playing a pass bet and odds and a little on the 6 and 8 , worried about how much he can lose
    while the savvy skilled player concentrates on how much he can win and places the bets
    that are geared to his skill level and his particular proved method
    thus fully capitalizing on his training and experience

    Many people who do not bother to learn the game should really not play
    so it is said LTWOQ
    think about it , GOOD ADVISE
     
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  17. James Hall, Dec 7, 2016

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    I will likely not go to the rodeo this year being the first NFR I have missed in over twenty years
    I do enjoy craps to some degree , It's not my favorite thing
    I'm not a thrill player
    but thanks for the advise
     
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  18. HornHiYo, Dec 7, 2016

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    It sounds just like SR ACA betting advice.
     
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  19. HornHiYo, Dec 7, 2016

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    Oh yes. The good ol' boys know how to time the wheel for a "tremendous" advantage. Classes cost several hundred. Oops..... forgive me if the casinos have read this and take action against clock watchers.
     
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  20. Twelve4s, Dec 7, 2016

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    I've been working on a hi-lo shot. Why not go for major ROI? Any suggestions for best dice set for shooting [6] [6] & [1][1] s?
     
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