You walk into a casino....

Discussion in 'General Craps Discussion' started by Dave G Ct, Jul 22, 2018.

  1. James Hall, Jul 29, 2018

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    You couldn't handle the best ,"HineyHole"
     
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  2. James Hall, Jul 29, 2018

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    You are starting to sound like someone who likes to be abused
     
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  3. HornHiYo, Jul 29, 2018

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    Come on Asshall. Pick up the pace. You need to haul Ass and say something new and meaningful. Your same old, same old tired remarks are boring.
     
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  4. James Hall, Jul 29, 2018

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    Now you are just getting weird ,
     
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  5. tabletop123, Jul 29, 2018

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    Tell ya what....I certainly won't entertain another 10 years listening to your drivel.
     
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  6. James Hall, Jul 29, 2018

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    I'm just responding to you HineyHole
     
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  7. James Hall, Jul 29, 2018

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    That wasn't my drivel I simply outlined
    the 8 points you seem to find significant
    regarding DI and the study thereof ,
    You paint an awfully bleak potential and anyone who
    sees the theory in that light should never , never
    even consider the prospect of pursuing it
     
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  8. HornHiYo, Jul 29, 2018

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    Drivel. Pure drivel alright. Plain and simple.
     
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  9. TDVegas, Jul 29, 2018

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    I would suggest anyone that wants to give DI a shot...to do so.

    I would not advise paying anyone. Gleen what you can for free and come up with your own plan with what you think works for you. The reason I wouldn't pay anyone to teach you is that there is no way possible to determine if the guy you are paying actually has the skill. Anyone can talk. Possessing the skill is a different story entirely.

    This would be a self taught skill as I honestly don't know how you can validate someone else's skill. It would take 1000's of rolls to witness unless we have a sniper in the house.

    Once you have an idea of your skill....then start collating results. If you have general mathematical knowledge, you should be able to determine your edge.

    If math or computer data isn't your thing....then it gets even more simple. Are.....you.....winning money year in, year out? And....how much are you actually playing to reinforce this confidence?

    A few times a year?.....I'm not so sure if that means anything. The difference between variance and DI could be indistinguishable IMO.

    How much cash are ya banking year in, year out?
     
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  10. James Hall, Jul 29, 2018

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    Take a break HineyHole you're like a Pekingese
    somebody makes an , ""@$$HOLE" remark you have
    to rush up yapping , to get some attention
    We know you're here , we hear you snapping and barking
    now take a break
    better yet get yourself a book on craps and
    have someone read it to you , maybe you can
    LEARN SOMETHING
     
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  11. James Hall, Jul 29, 2018

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    Then of course the question absolutely has to be
    "How in hell can you expect to learn something from someone
    who knows nothing about the subject material"?

    Then being self taught simply means learning thru
    trial and error , which simply means trying
    possibly hundreds of different things that have already
    been tried by many other people only to find that none of them worked
    until after months or even years of trials you stumble onto
    one thing that might work or like others on this board
    you give up in total frustration and start crying DI doesn't work

    The effort at teaching yourself thru trial and error
    is among the greatest exercises in futility known to mankind
    The quickest and easiest course is to
    find someone who has developed the skill and get them to
    share with you what they have learned

    Advising you to teach yourself would be the same as
    giving a young child a book and sitting him down
    and telling him to teach himself to read.
    There are those on this earth that
    will get all they can get FREE
    If you decide to learn DI , in a short period of time
    you will know if your outcomes are the result of DI
    or random results

    Ask yourself this question
    If I could learn DI would I be better served to learn it
    or should I just keep bleeding money at the tables
    hoping to win now and then
    Here are more questions you need to ponder
    How much money am I losing at the tables?
    Does it make sense to keep doing what I am doing or
    should I at least try to find a better way?
     
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  12. TDVegas, Jul 29, 2018

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    There is no practical way to find someone who has developed the skill. At least none that I have heard. "Take my word for it" isn't what I would call finding someone.
     
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  13. HornHiYo, Jul 30, 2018

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    TSK tsk tsk. All the years you spent practicing and your still stuck at home practicing and not playing. It appears you are in a rut doing and saying the same thing old thing over and over going absolutely nowhere. Here’s a tip for you. Learn some of the many other ways to play and win.
     
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  14. tabletop123, Jul 30, 2018

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    Bullshit!!! You will Most likely NOT know ( in a short period of time) if you are influencing the dice or not.
    The only exception would be IF you are Sniping numbers.

    Playing at $5 tables, & making only $5-$6 bets ain't a bad way to play the game. If you toss a few " Bricks" it's very easy to bounce back.
    Worse case scenario....ya don't lose much of nothing, so THAT is why James does all of the Chest Thumping.
    Now, granted...if you are truly skilled, you should be able to win on the higher denominational tables too. Skill is skill, but when it only cost you $37 per pop ( including the point with odds), you have MANY chances to succeed at a relatively low cost ( Assuming that you have a decent bankroll behind you).

    It means absolutely nothing to lose $300- $400 betting $5-$6 bets when you have a bankroll behind you.
    However, it stings a bit more when you lose $300 -400, betting $30 bets with only a $2,000 bankroll behind you.

    James is simply betting " Peanuts" with a hefty bankroll ( I'm ASSUMING he ain't broke at 80 yrs old) behind him, & if he losses a few sessions....he really hasn't lost anything, because he ain't betting nothing!!!

    If you were in your 80's, have worked, or owned a business all of your life...how hard would it be to go to a $5 table, win, & then harp: " I influence the dice"?

    Heck....you don't even have to know how to hold the dice in order to win at the $5 tables. Simply implement a few regression moves ( betting All Across), hit a few numbers, walk, & say...."I influence the dice"! Sydney taught me.

    Worst case scenario is that ya catch a few unwanted PSO's, & ya ain't lost too much of nothing any how.

    If they raised the table limits to $15- $25 minimums....James probably wouldn't even play.....EXCEPT for AT HOME!!!

    $37 losses betting Across with odds on the point is a lot easier to recover as opposed to betting $74, $180, $360 Across, etc.
     
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  15. tabletop123, Jul 30, 2018

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    Furthermore...how can James " rag" on TD for playing $1 bubble Craps when he CLAIMS to possess a high skill level, but only parks his Ass at the $5 tables? Lol
    Simply AMAZING!!!!! Lol
     
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  16. Mssthis1, Jul 30, 2018

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    Bankroll and properly betting it is more important than skill if you want to be more than just a recreational player.. Even if you have skill it's going to be in the low single digits over the HA and the bankroll swings are still mind boggling.

    $2000 available bankroll for every $5 bet used to be the number tossed around for BlackJack. I know from experience that number is too low unless you vacate the table on all negative counts.

    I never have heard a bankroll number tossed around for Craps.
     
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  17. eagleeye2, Jul 30, 2018

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    TT,

    Just when did any Casino Prevent you from betting MORE than $5 Per Bet, on a $5 Minimum Table???

    Thus, your post above is meaningless.

    eagleeye2???
     
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  18. tabletop123, Jul 30, 2018

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    Well....that settles it. ANOTHER poster that either CANNOT read, or CANNOT comprehend what they are reading.
    Let me explain it to YOU in language that even you MIGHT understand ( Kindergarten terms).
    James has REPEATEDLY posted that he bets $27 Across. NO NEED TO BET MORE! His method of operation.
    Those are HIS words. So.....a $5 table has EVERYTHING to do with the way that James plays.
    He has repeatedly stated that " The WAY In which he tosses the dice warrants his $5-$6 bets.
    Do yourself a favor, & stick to your bullshit, laughable, paste, & post " Why do opposite sides of a die add up to Seven" thingy.
    Ya also might want to NOT " hug" on Jame's " nuts" too tightly. Ya don't want to suffocate him or DO you?
     
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  19. The Midnight Skulker, Jul 30, 2018

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    What I took away was, "DON'T QUIT YOUR DAY JOB."
    As did I, but I take no offense at your omission since I did not do so until just now.
    Again, I see no "doom & gloom", rather "Look before you leap." I also see that Top's second post completely refutes what you took away from his first one.
    I haven't the foggiest where you got this from. Reminds me of ACDOC, whom other refugees from Usenet may remember. He/she was fond of making up stories that featured other posters in a negative light.
    Finding someone who has developed the skill is the fly in this particular brand of ointment. There is no "Who's Who" or similar compendium of DIs that lists them along with their credentials, so how can a novice make an informed choice of a teacher?
    Baloney! Short term, your outcomes can be only encouraging or discouraging simply because the game is designed to ensure results are random.
     
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  20. tabletop123, Jul 30, 2018

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    Every post that I have made ( Recently) only suggest that Dice Influencing is NOT all that it's been cracked up to be. It's simply overrated. I NEVER said it didn't work. I just don't THINK that it works for ANYONE to the extent that Jame's claims it does....Vault Assaults, paying the mortgage, plane payments...ya know...the usual bullshit!!!!
    Personally, I feel that a person SHOULD attempt to learn Dice Influencing, because IF SUCCESSFUL.... it will ( Periodically) give you a SLIGHT advantage.
    Any advantage playing Casino Craps is a good thing.

    However, one has to realize that MOST LIKELY your advantage will be in the single digits, & probably on the low end of the single digit spectrum ( 1-3%) BEFORE extracting house edge on any bets wagered.

    Sure...there will always be those that CLAIM 10-15% advantages, but more than likely those CLAIMANTS are receiving Social Security, Disability, or someone working full-time as a Stock Person in a Grocery Store!

    Weigh things carefully, don't believe the hype, proceed accordingly, & influence is very marginal...will ALWAYS be misconstrued as " Naysayer". Why? Simply because THAT'S the way that Dice Influencers are taught to be.
    Either you are " with them" 1,000% or you're not confident.

    Stick to low House edge bets, respect the Math, & NOT use the bullshit " The Casino Math doesn't apply to Di's" thingy , exercise extreme Discipline, proper bankroll, & knowing WHEN to walk, & you'll stand a good chance at winning.

    Dice Influencing is like condiment on a Sandwich. Sometimes it makes the sandwich very tasty, & sometimes.....NOT!!!
     
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