You Have Been Asked To Leave

Discussion in 'General Craps Discussion' started by Pressit, Jan 11, 2018.

  1. superrick, Jan 12, 2018

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    Well, some of us have had that happen to us and we did the same thing we walked out of the casinos. There are pleanty of dumb suits in Vegas that don't want you play if they think you can beat them and I know guys that have been asked to leave that never picked up the dice that the only thing they were doing wrong was winning on a consistent basis!
     
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  2. Mssthis1, Jan 12, 2018

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    The majority of disputes and misunderstandings would be eliminated if the casinos would put a 10 second shot clock on the craps table. Once the dice are sent to you you have 10 seconds to toss them then they go to the next shooter or the stickman chucks them if you're the only player.

    A red light, or siren for no more bets and a 10% additional vig for late bets would be a good rule change too.
     
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  3. Pressit, Jan 12, 2018

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    If you read Robert Nersesian’s book, a Nevada lawyer, these things have occurred to his clients.
     
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  4. Liman

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    rick, you make it sound like youre proud to be a person who got tossed from a casino.
    almost as if hey, Im a member of that special club. A playa.

    first, you should be ashamed of yourself for getting 86ed out of that shithole.
    second, I WENT there 2 years ago, I wanted to play, I saw the table sign, craps table opens at 3pm,I thought it was funny, I took a cell shot and got immediately reprimanded by the closest dealer standing there at her card table doing nothing. she actually argued with me when I denied doing it. told her I wanted only the sign, because I thought it was humorous.
    I would never ever in my life go back to that shithole to gamble after that big mouth cunt told me I cant take a picture of a sign,
    why on earth did you go there in the first place......oh...right, to practice a shot.
    and that's just what that shithole casino needs, guys like you tieing up their crew with your 3 dollar pass line bet so you can try to keep the dice as short as possible and spend as much time as you need setting up your shot and adjusting things.
    they know what you were doing, and Im sure they didn't appreciate it, with some short shots, the long time to deliver.
    so if they got a little po'd at you, its understandable. You brought it on yourself when you went back and forth, and we both know you didn't take to them asking you questions or asking you to leave lightly.
    do you think they need a bunch of shitkickers practicing on their tables? are you one of their card holding regulars? (don't think shitkicker is an insult to you, it certainly isn't, Ive played at jokers wild and considered my 3 dollar flat bets shitkicking craps also)

    you weren't pleasant with them, Im sure of that, they reprimanded you, or warned you in a way you didn't like, you told them what you think. Just like I did when I walked out, but I already knew by that sign what kind of place it was.
    its a shithole.
    and its a shame, because they serve a fucking great 4-5 dollar full breakfast in their shithole coffee shop, with the slowest service in Nevada, with moron servers, but the food was good.
    Id go back there just for the coffee shop, but I cant, because Id be lowering my standards to level 1, and there are plenty of level 4 or 5 shitholes in Henderson to go to.
    Ive been in most of them. And Im sure you have been in most of them 100 times more than me.

    you shouldn't be mentioning you got kicked out of a shithole, it only makes you look bad. really bad.

    if you were a threat to casinos, you would be blacklisted from most casinos, word spreads like wildfire there, they share info on cheaters and especially people they think have a 100% advantage of them.(no, I did not say you cheat, only that they share this info, anyone they don't trust? playing on their tables, for whatever reason)



    30 years ago, no, 50 years ago, howard johnsons used to have on Tuesday nights, all you can eat fried chicken, when they had restaurants all over.
    my brother was in college, and one of his college buddies was 450 lbs.
    He refused to stop eating and the manager asked him to finish up what was on his plate and leave.
    they ended up calling in the NYC police, he refused to leave.

    The cops reasoned with him, why are you doing this, really? do you need to keep eating?
    finally he left, the cops waitied for him to finish.

    getting kicked out of that restaurant for not really doing anything wrong, he sort of stuck to his guns on that point, but all it proved was he was a sick fat bastard who had no self control, no self esteem, and didn't know how to act in public. Noone went to eat out with him anymore , they were too embarrassed for him,
     
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  5. Liman

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    and Im sure the lawyers mentioned are just waiting for all the 3 dollar bettors to call them , Hey, will you take my case, I got kicked out of this casino, yeah, right sure,
     
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  6. tabletop123, Jan 12, 2018

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    Heh, Liman.........Can you tell us how you REALLY feel about things? Lol

    Shitkicker Casinos....CLASSIC! Lol
     
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  7. TDVegas, Jan 12, 2018

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    One would think.

    If you are going to a casino to "practice" or "try out a toss"....then you are obviously practicing DI.

    I still don't get all the bullshit double talk...
    "DI is a farce"
    "it's all random"
    "the dice are random"

    and then claim you go to low ball casino, empty $3 table to "practice a shot"...???

    Of COURSE you are advocating and practicing DI. What else could it be?
    Is this being a "closet DI" or something?

    What's the big deal with admitting?...looks foolish by bashing in one sentence and then advocating for it in the next.

    At least JHall is consistent.
     
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  8. TDVegas, Jan 12, 2018

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    Curious to know...Does his book mention any specific cases involving craps and advantage play? I know the issue with blackjack is generally card counting cases....any specific ones with craps?
     
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  9. tabletop123, Jan 12, 2018

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    Well......there's my answer! YOU just told us how you REALLY feel! Lol
     
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  10. tabletop123, Jan 12, 2018

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    TD I will say this....tossing dice mechanically is something that a few enjoy. Why? Simply because when it works, it gives you a feeling of accomplishment to say: " I beat probability".

    It's human nature to yearn to be in charge of things, regardless of if it's a game, craft, finances, etc.

    I think the real problem with Dice Influencing is EGO. Some people just seem to take things a little too far, & give too much credence to something that's just a game.
    Even though we all play to win, it's STILL only a game.

    If ya want to make it a "be all, end all" affair, & you let it consume the essence of your very being....GOOD LUCK WITH THAT!

    Some people venture into dice influencing because they figure that it might help them to win a little more frequently. Some engage because they have simply been brain-washed into believing its the "Holy Grail" ( and IT IS if you can unequivocally make it work for you), then you have those that became involved because they lost their Ass, & thought it might be a way to regain monies lost from previous years ( ME)!

    Of course you also have those that became involved because they enjoy sucessfully executing tasks, challenges, ie..hitting a spot repeatedly, spinning the dice, floating the dice etc. ( also, me)

    One thing is certain.....Unless you are keeping accurate CASINO rolls, or SNIPING numbers so consistently, wherein it's painstakingly obvious that you ARE influencing the dice.......you are deluding yourself & you are part of the masses......A RANDOM ROLLER!
    All of the back & forth bickering.....A complete waste of time., The believers are gonna continue to believe, & the Naysayers are gonna continue to say: "you're full of shit".
    It's a "Dead Heat"! Nobody wins. The ONLY entity that is unquestionably winning?.....THE CASINOS!
    Just my two cents!
     
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  11. random_roller, Jan 12, 2018

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    I visited the Strasburg Railroad when I was a kid. Loved it and always thought I'd get back soon but many years later I still haven't done so. There is also the Railroad Museum of Pennsylvania, which I haven't been to. Both are near Lancaster, PA. I'll probably stop by for a day after a quick stop at Hollywood Casino (Perryville, MD). On the same trip I can probably hit a few eastern PA casinos I haven't made it to yet. However, I might have to take a detour to Berlin, MD (Eastern Shore) and stop by Ocean Downs Casino, which completed an expansion and apparently now has live craps (per its website). Another reason to visit Ocean City again for the first time in years.

    If memory serves, you stopped by a place or two in Indiana/Michigan to check out the quilts/supplies. Next time head a bit further west and hit a few of the Chicagoland casinos. I'll bring the armored car so you can safely enter/leave Chicago. :D
     
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  12. James Hall, Jan 12, 2018

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    He's not condescending or arrogant is he ???
     
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  13. tabletop123, Jan 12, 2018

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    Realistic is probably a more accurate description of Liman!
     
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  14. TDVegas, Jan 12, 2018

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    Fair enough. I have no issue with your assessment.
    It might be helpful to know when the forum has these conversations...who is actually a believer and who is actually a naysayer?:)
     
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  15. HornHiYo, Jan 12, 2018

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    He has authored more than one book and is associated mostly with the card counting community. He is an attorney and also a proficient blackjack player himself. I recall one case in his book where a casino video captures a craps player sliding dice. The player challenged the charges and was convicted of cheating.
     
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  16. von duck, Jan 12, 2018

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    I am a firm believer in naysaying, but a "naysayer" in what I firmly believe, if that's any help. :)
     
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  17. tabletop123, Jan 12, 2018

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    Everyone knows where they stand, & the back, & forth stuff has no bearing WHATSOEVER with how one fares in the Casinos.

    What really tickles me is how SOME seem to take these discussions debates, & opinions into a "balls to the walls" Catfight!

    I respect everyone's opinion on Dice Influencing, but REALLY.....do ya think I'm gonna loose sleep, get upset, & bent all out of shape JUST because of a differing of opinion on a CRAPS FORUM? Lol.

    Dipshit, Bitch, Moron, Asshole,,& piece of shit name-calling due to a differing of opinion about betting strategies, win/loss records, Grandiose claims of winning, Dice Influencing? Lol.

    At what point will we become civil, & realize that the CASINO,has the motherfu**king money, & that these Cat fights don't bring us any closer to a win or loss in the Casinos?

    I guess the saying in the Bible is true...."Once a man, twice a child"!

    Continued success at the tables.......EVERYONE!
     
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  18. tabletop123, Jan 12, 2018

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    Lol.
     
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  19. Bases loaded, Jan 12, 2018

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    Liman has credibility.

    Some posters here do not.
     
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  20. superrick, Jan 12, 2018

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    I POST HERE TO HELP OTHERS. WHERE SOME POST HERE TO HINDER OTHERS FROM WINNING!

    All anybody has to do is look at the 200 + pages on the American Craps Academy where you and two others tried everything you could think of to try to stop guys from coming.

    By the way everyone that came made money when we were on the tables together and they all learned how to win and it didn't cost them any money for the class unless they bought a hamburger or two!
     
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