would you play differently if you were at the table alone?

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  1. scott22, Jan 2, 2017

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    I have a few times recently where no one else was at the table and have been able to throw the dice over and over till another player finally joins the table. I played the same way I usually do but was wondering if someone thought about it differently like make adjustments in their game as they continue to roll over and over again. like can you expect to roll a decent roll every time or should you strike while hot or go DARK if you had a few good ones or ramp your wagers up or down or I guess any or all the above. just curious what other people might do. thanks in advance
     
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  2. tabletop123, Jan 2, 2017

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    Empty tables are a dream for those that are trying to influence the dice! If you get lucky & "Catch a Gear", the ONLY words that Should be coming out of your mouth after EVERY seven Out is........"Same Dice Please"! Ride THAT train until it crashes, & burns, or you could do the Old Top move IMMEDIATELY following a good hand.........Color coming In!
     
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  3. Edward-ky, Jan 2, 2017

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    I figure a empty table would be the worst for a true DI. Seeing as all eyes would be on him or her. I still have yet to see any kind of heat towards a dice setter. And with most people setting dice these days, if DI were possible would be hard to tell if it is skill or luck on a good roll. First time at Murphy I played like 4 or 5 people at the table and just about every roll I made at least 2 passes. I stayed till about 2 am when they shut that table down. The box was a guy from my usual casino that transferred so I chatted with him during other rolls.
     
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  4. basicstrategy777, Jan 3, 2017

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    If you have an advantage when you handle the dice, I would assume you would want an advantage all the time....which would be the case if you were the only player at the table and you were a real good DI.

    I would assume the table would require fill after fill if it were surrounded by highly competent DI's......it just follows. One bullet or many bullets in your gun will determine the damage. You would be like Trump....' we are going to keep winning..and winning...you are going to be tired of us winning but I'm not going to stop....we are going to keep winning. ....the casino will say....please, please stop winning....but you are going to keep chucking and keep winning. No mercy.

    I'm not trying to be a wise guy here....just trying to be logical.

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  5. Twelve4s, Jan 3, 2017

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    Is this a New Years resolution?
     
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  6. basicstrategy777, Jan 3, 2017

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    don't be silly.

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    I can't help myself.
     
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  8. basicstrategy777, Jan 3, 2017

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    I know the feeling.

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  9. tabletop123, Jan 3, 2017

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    Your synopsis depends on what TYPE of toss the Di is using! A skilled Di using one of the Conventional GTC, PARR, or Underhand Toss, would not be allowed to CONTINUOUSLY empty the Casino's vault!

    Now, I will NOT categorize it as "Heat", but it"ll go something like this: Sir, your hands cannot extend over the prop box area!

    Next, it'll be: Sir, you need to toss the dice STRAIGHT DOWN THE MIDDLE (that's if you are tossing into the corner)!

    Then, it's: Sir, you need to hit the back wall harder! The list goes on, & on when you are killing the Casinos with one of the "T.V.( that's what I call GTV, & Parr) tosses!

    Now, I make absolutely no claims that Di's ARE BEATING the Casinos with Dice Influencing, BUT IF THEY ARE.......Its CERTAINLY NOT with GTC, PARR, or the Underhand Toss!

    You simply CANNOT hide in plain sight using those tosses!

    Here's a question for you.....As a pit boss observing tosses, & ensuring the rules, & regulations are being followed by every shooter, which kind of tosser ( Di, or not) is gonna catch your attention?

    The shooter that is bent over the table tossing very mechanically, & killing the table, or the shooter that is killing the table with a NOT so meticulous toss?
     
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  10. Linaway, Jan 3, 2017

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    Without giving away 777's secrets, he has an advantage via a human like relationship everywhere he travels to play craps. Two brothers travel with him. They are not freeloaders and carry their own weight. :rolleyes:
     
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  11. The Midnight Skulker, Jan 3, 2017

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    I should think being the lone shooter would appeal not only to the DI but also to the believer in biased dice. As Top advised, getting to use the same dice throw after throw regardless of outcome would allow the believer to recognize any pattern of non-randomness and exploit it. Obviously such recognition would only be a completely unscientific guess based on too small a sample, but what else is there?

    As noted previously the last few visits to my local haunt before my most recent one had been disasters. Hence, before venturing forth I made the (totally unwarranted) assumption that I had been fighting six-ace flats and developed a strategy to use in conjunction with my (probably non-existent) DI skill to tilt the table in my direction. (Who needs keys to the vault when you can simply beam up the booty? Rrrrrrright.) That strategy assumed I would be at a very sparsely populated tub, perhaps even the lone player. The table was in fact a tub, but there were several other players, and since my strategy was basically a dark side one -- the other players were front side -- I abandoned it in favor of my normal one. Turned out for the best as I was up $50 (on a $400 buyin) when I broke for an early dinner.
     
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  12. Liman

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    I never see much difference to bet or act differently at an empty table.
    if Im unhappy with a few decisions on my roll, I will walk away.
    the good thing is, Im certain of the randomness of my roll which I count on.
    not going to explain that.
     
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  13. TDVegas, Jan 3, 2017

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    Maybe it's my superstition...I do like having other players on the bubble. It doesn't have to be a full table.
     
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    See I don't get that all. As long as it meets the requirments of hitting the back wall I have never seen anyone get said anything to. Plenty of times seen people come up short and they were asked to hit the back wall after usually the 2 or 3 time. I have came up short plenty of times and they never said anything to me although everyone there knows me and knows it is not intentional or some cheating tactic and on occasion it's a winner. I suppose it is Vegas thing maybe. If it is why go to Vegas if that is what you have to deal with then.
     
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    maybe its the pop it feature on the aruze bubble, not sure, but I love playing my own bubble, either manufacturer, gimme an empty bubble and Im happy
     
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    I was up $50 on a $400 buy in! That's what I like! Not a big win, but you broke for an Early dinner with $50 winnings in tow! When playing a negative expectation game, a 10-15% win is HUGE! I'll take it every day of the week, whilst the "One's" that THINK they have an advantage "Shoot" for the stars.

    Way to salt away the win, Midnight! Many more are on the horizon for you! Continued success at the Tables!
     
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    I would not deviate from my normal play at all. Pass line with odds and place 6&8. If I'm having short rolls though, I will just do pass line only then "5 Count" myself so I don't wipe out everything I have in short order.
     
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  18. The Midnight Skulker, Jan 4, 2017

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    Shades of redleathers in The Before Time. His/her strategies depended on the natural variance of random rolls, which he/she could "read" (in a manner never revealed to deny evil-doers a method for financing their nefarious activities) to determine when conditions were favorable for making that one big bet, the outcome of which would overshadow all other bets made during a session.
    Misery loves company? ;)
    It was nice to keep the red ink in the bottle for a change.
     
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