Wincraps SIM: doubling up

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  1. von duck, Apr 24, 2018

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    :D EASY NINE? :D:D:D Hard nine would pay a lot more. :D :D
     
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  2. dustedone, Apr 26, 2018

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    Been having a terrible time logging onto this forum. Yes, there are trends that have spikes digging into ones bankroll but playing through the spikes is part of the game. In all truths, there are more losing rolls then rolls that win; but the winning roll erases the deficit and produces the profit.

    As you exclaim, " the spike can happen at anytime." This is also true, but as a trend produces the larger spike switching to a wager compressing matrix reduces bankroll exposure and continues to show profitability.
    You can pooh-pooh on my parade about this is the SIM the only shows profitability but this was SIM was right out of the gate. This system I stand behind as the unbeatable system. But does not work at every casino across the board.
     
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  3. dustedone, Apr 26, 2018

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    If you are a DI that can consistently toss certain numbers over other numbers; I would be betting on them for sure. This angle could reduce trends w/ lather spikes.
    If you start you hand less aggressive the ability to use wager compression diminishes and exposes your bankroll when large spike occur.
    Maybe if bankroll concerns one should attack the bubble.

    Also, work w/ even betting wagers.
     
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  4. DeMango, Apr 26, 2018

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    Thanks for that, I do throw more 8's & 9's then 6's & 5's with my influence, using certain sets. You have posted your casino results, what we need is your bet progression, for just one #. What was your stopping point?
     
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  5. von duck, Apr 26, 2018

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    Why would it work at one casino, and not another, assuming, same rules?
     
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  6. dustedone, Apr 27, 2018

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    You can t run a single 2-way hopping progression. I use to play a 3-way hopping SEVEN but hit my stopping point when my bankroll could not support a 54 roll between SEVENS. I was considering at.the time a system to hop ALL the hardways since they both produce the same amount of out-comes on the dice. I did not have my understanding of wager compression that I use today. But 54 rolls between rolls is a stop gap that need a huge bankroll.

    But have.in my mind to develop the SIM w/ wager compression to see what may happen????
     
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  7. dustedone, Apr 27, 2018

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    Some table that have max bet of $250 or pay prop bets.to only $500. These tend not to work to well. But doesn t mean you can t work them.
     
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  8. DeMango, Apr 27, 2018

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    Well that interests me as well. 54 rolls between a 7. Don't think I have ever done that in 10 years. Might have had a few hands that long, but with come out roll 7's in there. What was your progression in dollars there? Were you shooting from the don'ts under those occasions?
     
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  9. dustedone, Apr 29, 2018

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    I started w/ about a 3k bankroll. The betting progression started at $3 3-way hopping SEVEN. The progression worked out well till I hit my bankroll ceiling. I exhausted my stake before the 54th roll but counted out the roll session till the SEVEN rolled.

    I wasn t playing the front line at the time.
     
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  10. von duck, Apr 29, 2018

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    If you're going to hop the seven, or any other number for that matter, I can't see your system having much chance. Try to find some combination that gives you a four to one payoff, but has a substantially lower H/E. :)
     
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  11. dustedone, May 18, 2018

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    No, I started playing higher odds on roulette and the hourly rate goes up. This is the unbeatable system!!!
     
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  12. von duck, May 18, 2018

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    Unbeatable huh? Well let's see, this response is about three weeks late in coming, so, what happened? My guess would be, that you just picked your I-pad up, at the pawn shop. Right?.:) "Ka-Bong"
     
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  13. tabletop123, May 18, 2018

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    Title Pawn, perhaps? Lol
     
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  14. Mssthis1, May 18, 2018

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    Unbeatable on the casino side. A few weeks ago a lady was playing the "unbeatable hopping sevens" on the bubble. She did get to beat it in the end. I thought she was going to break the glass beating on it when she went broke.
     
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  15. Freddyy, May 18, 2018

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    The only way not to be broke at a casino is to not work a negative progression and leave when you hit a loss limit 1/3 of your expected average win. So if you want to win 500 in good sessions, 166$ down you’re out the door. And that’s Very hard to do. I do 250-300$. But my expected win’s 1k$.
     
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  16. DeMango, May 18, 2018

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    Yup, I have many misgivings about a negative progression bucking 14%+ ev. Sounds a lot better going after, I assume, single O roulette at 2.5%+ OTOH a di might have a chance, especially if sniping is involved. Too lazy and poor to get someone to write a win crap sim
     
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  17. Freddyy, May 18, 2018

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    Believe me, I tested every strategy there can be on random gen & in casino for the last 15 years.

    There is no « win everytime » strategy. Only « everytime till then ».

    The best strategy you can have is money management. But you’re going to lose. You just need to lose less then you win over time.
     
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  18. dustedone, May 19, 2018

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    Been hving a horrible time trying to log on to the site. Must take over dozen tries to finally get on the site.

    I have never been to a pawn shop for business. Stopped w/ my brother at the pawn stars place a few years back.
     
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  19. dustedone, May 19, 2018

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    Go ahead.guys, keep up the nay saying. I will give some more SIMs in the future. I have been very busy as of lately.

    Bought a new place to call home. Have yet to move cause of some small renovations taking place....

    Good luck at the tables. You all need it.
     
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  20. von duck, May 19, 2018

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    Ooohh! Pawn Stars, did they have any aircraft carriers, on the shelf? :D
     
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