Thanks Morgue. I can see that but most who can set a loss limit probably have the necessary discipline too. Sometimes I see players who I sense feel somewhat 'small' ( for lack of a better term) at the lesser buy in, or feel uncomfortable high tailing it out of there with their tail between their legs. Was hoping there was/is more to it. Regarding the original question, i would say the win/loss ratio is proportionate to other factors as well such as time at the table, frequency of craps visits, proximity and distance travelled to casino etc....factor all that in and it's horses for courses I guess. If you are a once a week player, then i would aim for a 2:1 ratio, where as a player 3-4 times a week or more should be satisfied with a 4:1 ratio. If $50 is too small of a win, i would look to increase the BR and size of bets rather than try and improve the ratio.