Why so much animosity toward Dice Control / Influence.

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  1. James Hall, Apr 17, 2019

    James Hall

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    Why do so many on his forum react so negatively to posts
    regarding Dice Influence??
     
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  2. James Hall, Apr 17, 2019

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    I guess the question really is , why is it when someone
    posts on the forum about winning at craps
    or about winning with the use of Dice influence
    a , "$#^*T storm is all but certain to be the result ??
    I know that early on I was promised by one member that If
    I posted what he considered to be outrageous claims he would
    be pushing back immediately and vigorously. He has and then there
    will normally be two or three others posting negative
    responses immediately behind him.
    I wonder why they do this and what they hope to accomplish
    with these tactics.
    Any thoughts?
     
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  3. Edward-ky, Apr 17, 2019

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    You do realize that your primarily the only one that gets this. No one harasses Dave really for his posts about DI. Others posts about DI and don’t catch that much flak over it. One DI makes a post about DI and another DI attacks him for it but you have no problem with it. I don’t believe make comments about your posts about DI but the crap that makes no logical sense.
     
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  4. eagleeye2, Apr 17, 2019

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    Wow, Edward-ky,

    Of all people, you should talk about ""LOGIC""???

    eagleeye2
     
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    I do not believe this involves animosity, rather a disbelief.

    This is simply a difference of opinion on the matter of controlling or influencing dice.

    Some believe they do these things. Others do not believe these things can be done.

    Although it doesn't matter to me, I am willing to argue my opinion on the matter if asked to do so, but because this has been discussed ad nauseum, there is nothing to be gained from such a discussion.

    Happy shooting, and I hesitate to say good luck.
     
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  7. TDVegas, Apr 17, 2019

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    Agreed.

    This is simply a disbelief or viability issue...not animosity. Animosity implies hatred.
     
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  8. tabletop123, Apr 17, 2019

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    Listen....let's cut the shit. The REAL problem is that James wants to " push" HIS beliefs, betting strategies, & How to play the game on others.

    Another problem is that NO ONE knows UNEQUIVOCALLY who is winning or losing UNLESS you are frequently with that individual in the Casinos.

    A person that SWEARS they are winning MIGHT....very well be the biggest friggin loser on the forum.

    A guy that SWEARS he hasn't won money in the Casinos on over a year MIGHT have been winning for a year straight.

    This is the internet, wherein any ONE/everyone can be a hero, or a Zero, & it's VERY doubtful that it can proven, or disproved.

    I have repeatedly stated that I have a 14 ft table in my garage. Suppose it's a TOTAL fabrication? Bottom line is that members have to make their own DECISIONS when reading posts on this open forum.
     
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  9. lone irish digit, Apr 17, 2019

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    This is Barney

    The LID has repeatedly says we have a craps table, a time shifting device, and a Suppercomputer in the goat shed. Suppose it's a total fabrication?
     
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  10. James Hall, Apr 17, 2019

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    Yes I know .
    I like your little tag on there . No one harasses Dave , REALLY. Which
    means you do but you think it's OK
    Why would I ,??
    The crap that makes no logical sense is normally crap that is beyond the other
    persons skill level.


    to insult him because TDV
    and the others in the group do it. It's all ENVY based.

    Again a , "QUALIFIER" . It's OK to be an insulting jerkoff as long as it's
    not too much.
    You are really not helping , I am not asking for , JUSTIFICATION
    I am wanting to verify , "WHY" you people find it so necessary
    to attack those with whom you disagree.
    I know why many of you do this , I would like to see if you guys
    that feel these attacks are so necessary really know , "WHY YOU DO IT"
    and why you feel it necessary to pile on , one after another.
     
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  11. James Hall, Apr 17, 2019

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    Disagreement is one thing and voicing those disagreements
    is fine and dandy but the thing I find odd is how some feel it necessary
    to insult folks like Billy and Dave who work so hard on their game.
    I find that puzzling.
    Thanks.
     
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  12. James Hall, Apr 17, 2019

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    When the disagreement rises to the level of insults it
    very nearly borders hate.
     
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    I have a 3 foot table leaning against the wall behind a dresser in the guest bedroom. I taught at least 6 people how to understand this game using that table and plastic chips.
    I didn't teach them to win, I taught them different bets and what they pay, and left the strategy up to them.
     
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  14. Edward-ky, Apr 17, 2019

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    You really fail to realize it is not some group effort to “attack” you. This is based on that I have no conversations with anyone on here besides random roller that isn’t on a public thread on here. Maybe there is some group discussion on you in private but I am not included in it if there is in fact a private discussion.
     
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  15. James Hall, Apr 17, 2019

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    That would be a breath of fresh air.
    First you say , "Lets cut the shit" then you pile on more.

    Not only is that NOT the real problem , that's not even THE problem.
    You people were at this throat cut , "BULL SHIT" for a long time
    before I got here. When I got here it just gave you another different target.
    There is no way that I or ANYBODY can . "push" his beliefs ,
    betting strategy and & how to play the game on others.
    Like everybody else I have offered alternatives , suggestions and
    more than that , like Dave and Billy most of my posts have been
    in defense of the attacks by you and the others of your group.

    I asked for the reason , the best you folks have even hinted at is
    You attack us Billy , Dave , me and others and
    you want to believe and others to believe it's OUR FAULT.
    You folks don't like the fact that we have a different view of the game.
    You folks want for us to cave in and say
    "OK YOU WIN , YOU HAVE CONVINCED US , WE CAN'T DO WHAT WE ARE DOING".
    What it boils down to is this , you folks CAN'T DO what
    Billy and Dave say they are doing many of the folks in your little group
    are absolutely not going to embarrass yourselves by trying to learn.
    So their only other option is to insult them and make them look like liars.
    If you people would look at this you would see I am right.
    BUT YOU WON'T. Rather than put up with opinions that contradict your own
    you badger brow beat and insult people till they give up and quit.
    Many people read this forum who will never post because
    of the treatment many get when they post here.
    It's a terrible thing ,
    The question was why do you do it???
     
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  16. James Hall, Apr 17, 2019

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    You know that isn't true , you read these threads.
    TDV starts then HoleHY and the gang . Demango use to
    come in with his 3rd grade , "ASSHALL" crap until he
    finall turned tale and skinned out to hide behind his little ,
    "GROUP OF INSIDERS" , I know his reasons he expressed those
    way back early on , so did TDV.

    Demango gave up trying to run me out
    TDV is still trying but that's fine. Like I said DeMango turned tail.
    Several others gave up.

    I would still like to know why so many react so negatively to
    posts regarding DI.
     
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  17. tabletop123, Apr 17, 2019

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    Why would anyone be envious of another's skill at Craps or lack thereof? Lol

    Most people on this forum have money, are successful, own/have owned businesses, & just play craps to enjoy themselves.

    Heck.....from what I gather ( MY OPINION ONLY)...guys like Liman, TD, ( G), Koko, Mssthis, & a few others don't even need to play Craps. They simply enjoy the game.

    They have plenty of friggin money, so why the fu**k would they care about a Di's winnings/losses, SRR, or how pretty their toss looks, or how much they practice, etc?

    James...what you fail to realize is that there are MANY on this forum that have had the same or more financial success than you CLAIM to have had. They could care less about Dice Influencing, & nothing that you post will EVER change that!!!

    They simply refuse to toot their own horn.
     
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  18. TDVegas, Apr 17, 2019

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    It's a craps forum. It's public. People express their opinions. If someone says he doesn't agree with your opinion or ideas or what you say....well, that's just too bad.

    We're all big boys here. It's a game. Anyone getting their feelings hurt or their ego tarnished over chatter about craps probably shouldn't be in here to begin with. I don't think anyone should really take things in here too seriously.

    Billy and Dave can take care of themselves. I really don't think they need you playing guardian.
     
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  19. tabletop123, Apr 17, 2019

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    Okay....very well. Allow me to give you the SHORT version. I REALLY don't give a sh**t how you play, when you play, or IF you play.

    As I've said MANY times....this forum is simply an escape for what I am currently experiencing in my household. There really WAS a time when this forum, & Dice Influencing REALLYdid meant something to me.

    NOT so much these days. There's simply too much going on in my life to worry about who's winning, playing, who's insulting who, or the " Camp", " Insider Group" Bullshit.

    Anyone that is posting on this forum for MORE than to just kill some time, say hello, exchange ideas, etc.....NEEDS THEIR FRIGGING HEAD EXAMINED!!!
     
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  20. TDVegas, Apr 17, 2019

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    Spot on, top. Again.
     
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