Why liberals hate America.

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  1. basicstrategy777, Apr 9, 2016

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    Why liberals hate America
    STEPHEN MOORE
    Why liberals hate America


    The idea of American exceptionalism has been embedded in our collective DNA for generations. It is the faith-based belief that, as Ronald Reagan put it, America is a “shining city on a hill.”

    Do modern liberals believe that?

    I almost never try to get into the other side’s head or ascribe ill motives to those on the left. But I’m having second thoughts after listening to Barack Obama’s defense of communism/socialism when he was in Argentina. He advised young people to get behind “what works” economically — as if there is some deep mystery here.

    Obama didn’t misspeak. The modern left in America really has come to believe that communism, socialism, Marxism and totalitarianism — or other terms for the monopolization of power into the hands of a ruling elite — are superior to free-market capitalism.

    The president of the United States is supposed to be the global spokesman for free enterprise. But instead of traveling to Cuba to point out to the world the decades of stagnation, deprivation and dehumanization at the hands of the Castros, and instead of using this moment in history to showcase the triumph of capitalism 90 miles away, Obama praises Cuba’s health care and education systems.

    He might as well have been praising Mussolini for making the trains run on time. Even more unbelievable: The media applauded.

    Can anyone imagine Obama, Hillary Clinton or Bernie Sanders having the gumption or wisdom to tell Mikhail Gorbachev to “tear down this wall”?

    It wasn’t so long ago that leading Democrats — JFK, Harry Truman and even the AFL-CIO — were staunch enemies of communism. Today, there is no place for such beliefs within the progressive Democratic Party. If it involves ceding power to the state, the left is all for it — as evidenced by the rise of Sanders.

    If you are a leftist, it’s not cool to love America. What is much cooler is wearing a Che Guevara T-shirt.

    We have a $19 trillion national debt that has doubled in the past decade. We have wages flat or falling for most Americans. We have a political class that is actively trying to destroy whole industries — coal production, oil and gas, community banks and so many others.

    We have a president (along with the intellectual class) pushing a radical climate change agenda that will cost the middle class millions of jobs — but won’t change the global temperature by a hundredth of adegree.

    We have the TSA searching the underwear of infants but letting certain adults pass through without inspection because we wouldn’t want to be accused of profiling. We have a Justice Department thinking about prosecuting people for questioning the climate change “consensus.”

    This is the same crowd that seems to prefer the economic systems in Sweden and Greece and Cuba over America’s. They preach human rights, but they don’t seem to understand that economic freedom is a core human right.

    Stephen Moore is a visiting fellow at The Heritage Foundation, economics contributor to FreedomWorks and author of

    “Who’s the Fairest of Them All?”
     
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  2. wonko33, Apr 9, 2016

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    My buddy is half Lebanese, (his father met his mom while on duty) if you think anybody at TSA has any qualms about "randomly" selecting him for a search everytime he wants to fly you are drinking just as much kool-aid as the idiots with a Che t-shirt , just a different flavor.
     
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  3. Twelve4s, Apr 9, 2016

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    Will an 8 member supreme court be able to elect (appoint) Trump as next president? The GOP are always so forward thinking. Where would the shrub have been, with an 8 member supreme court?
     
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  4. basicstrategy777, Apr 9, 2016

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    What was made up ?

    Frequently you can't counter will sound facts so you say stuff like this.

    I admit when I'm wrong, like the gamblers fallacy....you, on the other hand, cannot admit when you are wrong and just talk to hear yourself talk.

    e.g. when I posted about Benghazi, you did not stick to the subject but went off on past presidents. You just could not admit to the facts on the case.

    Not good.


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    You're the kind of people Trump talks about.....all talk, no action.

    I think the sun got to you while out prospecting for gold.

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    You better get use to it.

    Oh....and give me some facts to counter what I say instead of a stream of nonsense talk that says nothing.

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  8. Grizzoola, Apr 9, 2016

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    What 777, like too many of his ilk, want is a throwback to the 1890s, the so-called "Gilded Age." He has no understanding of where this country is, now. He's fighting a rear action.
     
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  9. KokomoJoe4, Apr 9, 2016

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  10. Settingcanthurt, Apr 9, 2016

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    It's unfortunate you were so afflicted with Bush Derangement Syndrome.

    Can you explain how the supreme court elected Bush??
     
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    Grizz you have it all wrong.
    Simply said us "ilk" believe this country's greatness is due completely to what the founding fathers left us.
    A constitution which is based on a republic (rule of law) which has a representative government, of,by,for the people. Representative are democratically elected by the people. The amendments written into it called the bill of rights is primarily why this country is so successful.

    Your ilk hates these facts and want to change it to suit themselves weather it is to gain power or or take from productive people. Your ilk is distorting it all so much many of you think it's ok. It's not. Being pushed is how my ilk feel. Your ilk has destroyed the rule of law. It's a mistake.
     
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    LOL, no, but it won't help them either, and it would be an effort in futility.
     
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  13. Grizzoola, Apr 9, 2016

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    I'm insulted by guys/gals like you & 777 thinking that, because I'm a Liberal (altho not as Liberal as you may think), I "hate America." I volunteered to wear the uniform of my country, and every ounce of me is devoted to the welfare of America. I'm as patriotic as any of you. We simply have different beliefs as to America's welfare, and for people like you & 777 to make derogatory remarks as to my or those who believe like me re: our loyalty to our country is despicable. You have a lot of gall to think you're so damned superior. What makes you so damned "superior"?
     
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    Ditto what Grizz said!
     
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    Basic, let's put your beliefs in the proper perspective...they are yours and while you might feel they are spot on, they are still only one side of the story...and while I will respect those ideas and beliefs as YOURS, don't presume that I or anyone else that posts here doesn't have a right to that same respect...and have a right to disagree with your take politically...now...can we all be buddies again?:D
     
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  16. Settingcanthurt, Apr 9, 2016

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    Simple
    I can see whee POTUS is ignoring laws as well as Shrillery is above them. Flemmy Sanders is a communist. You cant see it.
    The justice department under this POTUS from day one has not done it's job. This Potus welcomes a dictators ways and blames this country for the problems Cuba has. The llist is endless. Even Bill Clinton is fed up with it.
     
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    What if any of this is opinion? Seeing is superior to not seeing is it not??
     
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    FROM DAY 1

    The ruling came courtesy of Judge Reggie B. Walton of the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia in response to Judicial Watch’s effort to obtain attorney’s fees from the DOJ for stonewalling the release of documents pertaining to the Black Panther scandal. Here’s the key quote from Judge Walton’s ruling:



    The documents reveal that political appointees within DOJ were conferring about the status and resolution of the New Black Panther Party case in the days preceding the DOJ’s dismissal of claims in that case, which would appear to contradict Assistant Attorney General Perez’s testimony that political leadership was not involved in that decision. Surely the public has an interest in documents that cast doubt on the accuracy of government officials’ representations regarding the possible politicization of agency decision-making.

    In sum, the Court concludes that three of the four fee entitlement factors weigh in favor of awarding fees to Judicial Watch. Therefore, Judicial Watch is both eligible and entitled to fees and costs, and the Court must now consider the reasonableness of Judicial Watch’s requested award.



    So, in short, this ruling is further confirmation that political appointees at the DOJ did interfere in the Black Panther case. Assistant AG Perez’s testimony was false. And the American people have a right to documents related to the scandal. That’s pretty much a clear-cut victory.



    By way of review, this all started on Election Day 2008, when members of the New Black Panther Party stood guard at a polling station in Philadelphia, PA, brandishing weapons and threatening voters. A video of the incident was widely distributed on the Internet. The DOJ filed a civil lawsuit against the Black Panthers, but ultimately overruled members of its own staff and dismissed the majority of the charges.



    The Black Panther lawsuit dismissal led to accusations of racism at the DOJ from within its own ranks. Former DOJ lawyer J. Christian Adams, who called the actions by Black Panthers, “the simplest and most obvious violation of federal law” he had ever seen during his career at the DOJ, resigned from his position as a result of the case dismissal.

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...ized-black-panther-case-awards-jw-court-fees/
     
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    You disappoint me. You are not being reasonable. Whats being distorted??

    EXACTLY WHAT OPINION HAVE I GIVEN .
     
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    Shillary is above the law

    http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/414777/yes-hillary-clinton-broke-law-ian-tuttle

    So the question would seem to be: Are emails records? The answer is obvious — and was so long before Hillary Clinton took over at Foggy Bottom. Here is the State Department’s own treatment of the question from 1995: Another important modern improvement is the ease of communication now afforded to the Department world-wide through the use of E-mail. . . . All employees must be aware that some of the variety of the messages being exchanged on E-mail are important to the Department and must be preserved; such messages are considered Federal records under the law. (5 FAM [Foreign Affairs Manual] 443.1) In fact, step-by-step guidance was being offered to employees two decades ago about how to preserve email records. So if Clinton failed to follow procedures, it was not for lack of available instruction on the subject. There have been modifications, particularly in recent years, about what constitutes “private email” that does not fall under the purview of these regulations, but such details are irrelevant here, because Clinton apparently did not transfer any of the communications from her private account for preservation. To maintain that that is above-board, one also must maintain that Clinton did not send a single work-related email in four years as America’s top diplomat. Which we know is false. So, yes, Hillary Clinton broke the law.

    Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/414777/yes-hillary-clinton-broke-law-ian-tuttle
     
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