Why I hate Interblock Bubble Craps

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  1. TDVegas, Oct 12, 2017

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    WHAT???!!;)

    Nothing positive???:mad:

    Today I decided to play one of those dumbass triple parlay Hard 8 wagers...;)

    Who said I have nothing positive to say??:);):p:p...I’m positive it was a good bet.

    How bout dem apples, Mister James...???!!!!!!;)

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  2. von duck, Oct 12, 2017

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    TD has an entire catalog of Aruze screens he can post, courtesy of Aruze gaming, for which he is a marketing agent. IMO.:cool:
     
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  3. AzDice, Oct 12, 2017

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    Laughlin is a destination for us about four times a year. Vegas too busy. I just need a place to shower and crash. Never stayed at pioneer Hotel casino. I heard their rooms haven't been updated since the eighties.
    We'll park in their parking lot and walk to Golden Nugget. It's closer from pioneer lot than it is too walk from nugget garage.
    We're in Pioneer to play VP at the bar. My wife likes playing there because you can order from the small bar menu. Plus they are the only casino that has her favorite drink. We call it cinnamon toast crunch. Taste just like the cereal. RumChata and Fireball mixed together.
     
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    funny you mentioned the parking, we did the same thing, at first we were about to leave pioneer because we just saw that wall between hotel parking areas, then we saw at the end, (it was blocked by a panel truck when we were there), the small walk thru into the side entrance of golden nugget.
    My wife signed up for a card, she got 10 dollars free play, maybe it was 5? so I signed up, but they said I already had a card on file(must have been from AC 20 years ago), I didn't get my free play.

    we made 10 bucks off the free play, went to look for my tee shirt, they didn't have any, we left.

    the second night we were there, we went to pioneer after dinner, maybe from 6:30 to 8:30 pm, besides 3 people playing blackjack, and maybe 10 others at slots, one sitting at bar, there was no one else in there besides us and one couple at bubble. Really empty, Tuesday night, but really empty.(wait, maybe it was Monday night, cant recall now)
     
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  5. TDVegas, Oct 12, 2017

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    That's a very dangerous game to play here....

    "Traps"...."misrepresentations"...."pictures that don't match up with casinos"...."Christmas tree chip pics that are 2 years old".

    We've had a few members "pinched" for misrepresenting.

    This picture was today...on the bubble, sometime around 2pm. The metadata will confirm that. It will also tell you what device took the picture (iPhone).

    Nope, that's a very dangerous ploy you suggest. You might do that....considering your post to Mr. Hall on the "trap". I would not.

    Just saying.
     
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  6. James Hall, Oct 12, 2017

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    I'll bet you wish you had been on them , that would be a jackpot
    My favorite bet , I have betting strategies based on that
     
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  7. von duck, Oct 12, 2017

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    I was referring to TD McGillicutty, just for the record. :D
     
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  8. James Hall, Oct 12, 2017

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    there is no danger in traps , TD gets a bit pissed when he is the butt of the joke
     
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  9. von duck, Oct 12, 2017

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    That TDVegas guy is such an egomaniac, what would make him think I was talking about him? I wonder if their related? :D SIR.
     
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    who knows
     
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  11. TR31

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    That's why his moniker "the village idiot" applies.

    Anyone can cherry pick the screen shoots. All one has to do is roam the casino. In statistics, we call it cherry picking.

    It would be more impressive with a before and after photo. 3 times 8 the hard way in the first photo and then 3 more 8 the hard way in the second photo.

    But wait, there is never a second photo OR better yet: first photo has the first 8 the hard way, second photo has two consecutive 8's the hard way, and the third photo has 3 consecutive 8's the hard way. Plus we can match up the same sequence of the previous series.
     
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    The Nugget in Reno used to have obscene max bet limits for Aruze Bubble Craps. One of the biggest flaws in slots is its vulnerability to progression betting.

    In theory, progression betting DOES NOT change the EV or house edge. However, the bet ramp or how many consecutive bets a player can make may result in lots of winning sessions before the player loses everything. You can use a binomial calculator to get a sense of a bettor's chance to bust out given a huge bet ramp.

    Suppose you use the martingale on the Field bet: $1 - $2 - $4, etc to table limits. Suppose the max bet on the Field was $10K, then the player would get huge amounts of bets before hitting the max bet limit.

    2^13 is 8,192 or 13 consecutive Field bets assuming $10K limit. (Technically 2^0 is 1 -- so if the first bet is $1, then it's 14 consecutive bets; btw 2^13 assumes the first bet is $2).

    There are 36 dice combinations with 4 ways to make the 5, 5 ways for 6 or 8, and 6 ways for the 7. Basically, 20 ways to lose and 16 ways to win on the a field bet. So basically 44.44% chance to win on each roll with some rolls paying 2X or possibly 3X.

    http://stattrek.com/m/online-calculator/binomial.aspx

    So 0 success for 13 trials at 0.444444 success on each trial is:
    P(X <= x) is 0.00048024
    P(X > x) is 0.99952 (rounded)

    So if you have really deep pockets and nerves of steel to put out 13 consecutive Field bets assuming the first 12 bets all lost, then give martingale a shot.

    -TR31

    Btw, I designed bet ramps for 5 number & 6 number plays on Roulette for a ploppy as a favor and he can make 25 to 30 consecutive bets. This was due to an abnormally high bet ramp say 1 to 400. The person made over $2K on a good night but lost $10K on a bad night and over a 6-month period was up over $20K not counting comps, free play, etc. Eventually, he will lose everything but it will take time. That is why most bet ramps for Roulette rarely exceed 1 to 100.
     
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    The amount is 10K in credits in my neck of the woods so any winnings that would result in credits over 10K would just kick out a ticket. Once you get on a winning streak, it just keep spitting out tickets.

    It's a pretty common sight where I play as many bettors have deep pockets and would be betting the max $1K per roll (to avoid W2G machine lock up's) so a few consecutive winning rolls, especially repeat 4's or 10's, would put them over the 10K credit threshold.
     
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  14. Pressit, Oct 15, 2017

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    Since the metadata on these pictures are automatically erased, and not that anyone who doubt the veracity of your suggestive claims that not only was this the BC machine you were playing on at the tine the three Hard 8’s appeared, but that you actually had completed a triple parlay, why not in the future also submit a picture of the winning printed cash voucher, listing the amount, time & date and the name of the casino. Although HW bets are not known to be in your wheelhouse of betting, this bit of added evidence will make the naysayers claims simply melt away into the hot desert dirt. 8903C5FA-5286-49DD-A377-7BFCD9E3B146.jpeg
     
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  15. TDVegas, Oct 15, 2017

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    unless that's a slot win....we have another bubble convert? And a nice win. Certainly no one has to "choose" between the two. They can play both. I know many who do.

    That's good to see. I was very strong in pushing bubble craps. Man o man was the initial pushback UNREAL here. "Not real craps"...."just a slot machine"...."rigged"....etc, etc.

    Some embraced it...OAP, BTL as a great alternative. Not leaving out others as I know many here give it props.

    Glad to see more getting on board. I think Liman and me have been the two strongest proponents of bubble craps since we arrived here. Liman has even patented the word "bubble craps". ;) Or is it Linman? Lineman? Linaman?

    As I said, glad to see more members enjoying and embracing it.
     
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  16. Liman

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    pressit, most of my bubble play vouchers I post there these days are to verify I was in the casino when I said I was.
    its great proof, better than stacks of chips from casinos that don't exist.

    I couldn't give a rats ass what people think of craps bubbles. Im happy I was able to get a seat every single time I sat down at any bubble in the las vegas area.
     
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  17. lone irish digit, Oct 15, 2017

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    That, I think, was a ticket that Barney cashed last week. I have taught him AP slot plays and he put $400 into a slot machine but got distracted before the max hit by a female and cashed out with the ticket above. So these pictures really mean about the same as chip tree pictures. Now if you show a picture of a fish you caught at the river boat casino then you got something there.
     
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  18. Mssthis1, Oct 15, 2017

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    I've been tracking bubble rolls and when that bubble rolls aces and then a nine it always rolls multiple hardways right after that. I learned that from a facebook video that I watched where the instructor said to watch what people roll and then bet on those numbers the next time they have the dice.

    Example: If you see someone roll 3 fours in a row you bet the four the next time they have the dice, parlay it 3 times and down.

    It works on bubbles too.

    I passed that on to TDV and he cashed in on it. If you like Video Poker, that particular bubble has full pay double bonus machines right next to it. You can play video poker and track the bubble at the same time.
     
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  19. von duck, Oct 15, 2017

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    This ticket only proves that sombody photographed, a voucher, says nothing of the buy-in, or even if the ticket was theirs.:confused: :cool:.
     
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  20. William Innes, Oct 19, 2017

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    I like that Idea.
     
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