Why do we play?

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  1. The Midnight Skulker, Jul 27, 2016

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    Now that you mention it, it's been over two years since we've heard anything about The Great Craps Shootout in Tunisia. Comeback, any updates?
     
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  2. James Hall, Jul 27, 2016

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    wrong on all points you stated
    Just like I did with you I invited him to Mesa to see what ever he wants to see
    you , he , or all call I will set aside some time
    be happy to show you what we do , how and why
    I could even have some of the guys come by
    the invitation to TDV and you has been open for a couple of months now
    swing on by
     
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  3. betwthelines, Jul 27, 2016

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    No. Completely Unwilling. along with the 2 options that 'pilot has presented, let's get further real: your claims are worthless except under live, casino conditions...

    proponents of skill at bank craps on this forum, almost to a person tout the benefits and the need for practice, yes, but again almost to a person allow the necessity for adjustments once they reach a real casino table...some wont even play at places other than those they deem favorable...but all allow that the casino experience is DIFFERENT from their practice rig...i am hard-pressed to think of one proponent who has not said something like the need to scope out what the table is giving them or what the "bounce" qualities are or the materials used or even the bumps under the felt and adjust their well-practiced techniques to that or perhaps decide to not play at all...even davey in rare moments of lucidity asserts as much...

    the rubber meets the road at a gambling casino that has a bank craps table, not at a practice rig in a garage in mesa...virtually all DI proponents agree on that...

    the challenge even allowed for minimal amounts to be at risk if that would be your proclivity...all we wanted was to see your rolls or get a report of them...you were to be in complete charge of virtually everything...

    your claims are just that-all talk

    no walk.

    you have been challenged to demonstrate your constantly self-touted prowess at the only places that matter...you are completely in charge of what (well, i guess vegas) casino venue...you are completely in charge of the criteria (less 7s, more 6s WHATEVER you wish)...

    yet you refuse

    worse than refuse...you ask for money!

    wow! have i been wrong all this time and you actually are a troll??! say it ain't so, joe!

    talking the talk is easy...hell, even i can do that...walking the walk requires the hard work, forthrightness, effort and ambition that you yourself constantly tout...

    you've been called a braggart, an over the top one even but it ain't braggin' if you can do it...your insecurities and ardent need for recognition are getting tiresome but they are more than tolerable would you walk the walk.

    tom p
     
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  4. James Hall, Jul 27, 2016

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    oh contrair my tables were al purchased from Las Vegas Casinos , I do not use practice rigs
    the table conditions suffice in every respect for practice and demonstration to negative accept no truth individuals
    If I am to demonstrate and believe me I do it all the time
    it will be in the conditions I choose
    I will control the time the place etc.
    you said yourself I was to be completely in charge
    Your assertion that I asked for money is unfounded and totally untrue
    I merely asked how much it was worth to him
    If I had asked him for money I would have demanded a dollar figure
    because I have a pretty good idea how cheap TD is and know he never pays for anything he doesn't have to
    he's a one dollar bubble player
    You are starting to quote your mentor TD
    Again guys I have invited repeatedly come to Mesa I will enlighten you to things craps
    otherwise remain in the dark
    I will make it as convenient as I can for you
    for those of you who money is a problem it will be free
    Hell I will even pick you up at the airport
    email me with your flight number and arrival time I will pick you up
    If you want to see be here
    you don't even have to walk
    buy a plane ticket
    I know TD is wanting a free lesson
    now is your chance
     
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  5. TDVegas, Jul 27, 2016

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    LOL...show up at a house of someone I don't know in a city 300 miles from here?

    Only a fool would do something like that.

    I offered you every opportunity to showcase your skills in a casino. It sounds more like you are afraid you will fail and be exposed. Understood.

    A public casino of your choosing...any time, any date.
     
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  6. HornHiYo, Jul 27, 2016

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    He can't do it. He knows he can't do it except in his wet dreams. All Bullshit with a capital B.
     
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  7. betwthelines, Jul 27, 2016

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    i said, "you are completely in charge of what (well, i guess vegas) casino venue." <emphasis added>

    you can choose whatever casino you wish, you would be in complete charge of that... perhaps i just assumed it would be in vegas where you would have a plethora of choices and you have "claimed" that you do get to vegas sometimes...there's no rush...only your word that you will do it next time you are in vegas would be good enough for now...

    your claims are worthless unless under live, casino conditions...

    the rubber meets the road
    at a gambling casino that has a bank craps table, not at a table, regardless of its origin, in some garage...

    i do apologize if i misinterpreted your call for money although the phrase "how much is it worth to you?" can easily and rationally be interpreted as bringing money into the equation...think on that...

    "your place" doesn't cut it...we play for money in public casinos and in gambling money is the only measure...

    the deeper you dig the more you are talking the talk...talk, talk, talk...cheap, cheap, cheap...and leads one increasingly to think that you really cannot walk the walk...if you cannot do it, you are just bragging...vehemently and adamantly bragging...

    tom p
     
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  8. random_roller, Jul 27, 2016

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    You missed it. It was on ESPN 8, The Ocho. Right after dodgeball.
     
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  9. James Hall, Jul 28, 2016

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    why don't you prepare a list of "claims" you feel you need proved and post them

    If you have read any of my posts you know that I am usually very clear and to the point
    If I had been "asking for money" I would have specified an amount and it would have been high enough to make it worthwhile
    Casino conditions are not necessary to demonstrate ,
    If and when this happens I will let you know
    The reason I asked "how much is it worth" and it seems like it is quite important to the chunkers / random rollers
    is because it may be necessary for them to travel
    If they want it they will have to make the trip
    I am not going to go out of my way to prove what you and they already know works when I am in Vegas time is money
    they want to learn let them spend the time and energy
     
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  10. James Hall, Jul 28, 2016

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    Parker called last night he wants to go to Albuquerque the middle of August
    how about gather up your guys we will give you a show
    bring AOP and Between the lines , and all the other naysayers
    you get them to pay for gas and meals
    that way you get a FREE lesson
    and you would definitely learn something
     
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  11. The Midnight Skulker, Jul 28, 2016

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    Mother [expletive deleted] son of a [expletive deleted] piece of [expletive deleted]! :mad: My elementary school alma mater made the state dodgeball finals this year. Please tell me that the championship match wasn't featured. I missed their appearance the last time they made the playoffs too and it put me out $1378. (I worked off my frustration on my practice range in my living room but was so mad I put my first kick through the plate glass window. Of all the rotten (non-existent) luck, there was a thunderstorm in progress and the practice range was destroyed. (I think some family heirlooms also bought it, but who cares about them?) Never did find the ball; it must have gotten washed away in the flood.)
     
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  12. Onautopilot, Jul 28, 2016

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    What exact dates in august? There is a possibility that I will be in the area.
     
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  13. James Hall, Jul 28, 2016

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    he didn't say he just said the middle of the month
     
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  14. TDVegas, Jul 28, 2016

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    So let me understand this...

    When you first arrived on this forum, you said you get to Vegas 12-20 times a year and "do quite well"...

    When called to floor to show yourself....suddenly Vegas is a no go and the scenery changes to Kansas and New Mexico...?

    Got it.

    Yes, I'm a doubter....
     
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  15. TDVegas, Jul 28, 2016

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    In other words..."I can't give you a straight answer"...
     
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  16. James Hall, Jul 28, 2016

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    you call yourself a doubter , actually I think you are one of those individuals who doubts everything
    If there is something that is beyond your ability you simply pass it off as not possible
    The thing I find difficult to understand about you , OAP and other such people
    is how they can see these long rolls that people document and you chalk it up to luck
    "ludicrous"
    but because you seem to stress and obsess over my activity or the seemingly lack there of
    let me put you to some degree of comfort
    we / I am trying other places to compare the use of fair or bias dice in the other casinos relative to Vegas
     
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  17. James Hall, Jul 28, 2016

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    in other words I CAN'T GIVE YOU ANY ANSWER
    I don't know he didn't say call Parker and ask him what he has in mind
     
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  18. James Hall, Jul 28, 2016

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    , you really need to find some other interest in life
    the slots are not occupying nearly enough of your time
    you occupy way to much of your time in my activities

    how about tennis nah that sucks
    well let me give it some thought , I will think of something for you

    OH OH I know maybe OAP will loan you his flute ! ! !
     
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  19. TDVegas, Jul 28, 2016

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    There are just as many long rolls from random rollers here as there are from people who claim dice influence. They aren't mutually exclusive.

    On the bias dice front..? YOU WEREN'T EVEN AWARE OF IT until you arrived here. You said you get to Vegas 12-20 times a year and do quite well. Obviously those bias dice issues haven't affected you negatively.

    Suddenly they become an issue to contend with?

    LOL...
     
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  20. TDVegas, Jul 28, 2016

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    When you get called to the floor..obfuscate, avoid, change the subject.
     
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