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Discussion in 'General Craps Discussion' started by tabletop123, Jul 24, 2017.
BTW, that "Is DI a form of cheating" thread was pretty lame.
The DI's won't take the bait.
I was going to let this one go over my head in silence, but since I am replying to Two Dice I'll confess my confusion. You like my previous post but it put you to sleep? Talk about collateral damage!
[Forgive my ordering your list with dice markers. ]
Category players definitely need to attend a plug-pulling (Argh There is no escape!) seminar complete with after glow session on proper cage protocol. Though not absolutely required, the seminar should also have anti-dumb-shit spray paraphernalia available...for separate purchase of course.
Category players are a little better off, at least in the short run, for they are not going broke, merely not getting as rich as they would-a/could-a/should-a. I fell into this category on my last visit to my local house of investment. I started off like gang busters; didn't count the rolls but SWAG my opening hand at 20+. I and the other two players made some nice coin, so nice that they passed the dice back to me for the next two rounds. Unfortunately the magic deserted me for those rounds and several following, but it did return and I tossed a near-monster...during which I was too "scared" to press my bets. You nailed it, Two Dice; I was loathe to put any extra pressure on myself, change the ambience of the table so to speak. Besides, I had a bunch of singles to get rid of and trading 1 for 15 seemed like the perfect way to do it ...well, at the time, anyway.
Not at all. Actually I think it was Freddyy who constructed the (first?) fork in the thread (in Post #12), which others took before you chimed in. Tangents are a fact of life on forums. Usenet had a nice feature that handled such situations: posters could change the subject line, the convention being "New subject [was Old subject]".
[You snuck this in while I was typing and not looking.]
I agree that the thread I linked to was a little too short to be of any value. However, the subject was discussed at length on the rec.gambling.craps newsgroup.
I don't know what my record is for don't/odds bets, but not too long ago I remember recording, 17 straight winning odds bets on the don't. I had a loser that was a doozy, I will have to look it up.
Yeah, that was part I liked best, a guy needs his rest ya know. I am an insomniac, and your post was helpful, TomP is still, the best "Knock-Out" poster though.
Oh I know how bad it can get. I set my limits both win and loss because I know how bad it can get, much more then the chances for how good it can get. Fast and furious is how I always see this game and it you do NOT quit while ahead you will no longer be ahead. Fact. DI all you want.
take 80-90 % a lot
I'm gonna say, your absolutely correct.
If I can get out with 2/3 of my "high point", I figure I got out good, and gave it a good shot. I mean, if you reach the point where you're afraid to game it a little, just stay home, and call then expenses saved "profits".
Incidentally, I will be conducting a "Flee to the Cage" 2018 seminar. It will be held in the Privacy of my home on my home table.
The Seminar is free all forum members that are currently experiencing a "Nut Clipping" saga.
The Seminar will include: (1) Quickest routes to the Cashier's Cage. (2) How to exit a table after getting three Successful hits. (3) The most efficient ways to hide your winnings from your Spouse. (4) How to exit the table without being labeled a Coward for quitting suddenly! (5) How to Rathole Chips, & convince the crew that ya "broke even", & didn't win a fucking dime. (6) How to toss with one foot pointed towards the Cage. (7) How to disguise your toss, so that ya appear to be "just another Random Roller"!
All interested parties can PM me for additional information!
not true for professional golfers, if someone farts 300 yards away they have that person ejected.
Were you ejected from a golf tournament, or from a casino being patronized by a golf professional? And how would you "rate" this fart, on scale of 1-10. Firstly, by acoustical quality, and secondly by bouquet?
bouquet , there is a rating system for bouquet ???
Yes, it's very similar to the Olympic gymnastics scoring system. Liman is the first and only "contestant" to garner a 10/0, in competition, even from the Russian judge. We think he has a good chance, to make the "Hall of Fame".
Here is that luck stuff
Please tell us what part , "LUCK" plays in providing a player with a win
obviously you feel that skill will not enhance your opportunity to win
So please tell us with no skill involved , how does luck insure a win
What....luck doesn't insure anything. It is an after the fact word used to describe how some random event affected you....good or bad. You could use other words to describe your experience...."The craps Gods smiled on me.", "I was fortunate to catch a good roll.".
Luck is just a descriptive word, nothing more, it's not a force, it's not a cause!
Luck is a term used by anybody who discusses gambling. Pretending you don't know what it is or what it means is disingenuous.
Your contention that craps is a game of skill precludes luck.
So be it.
TdVegas is placing games into 2 definite categories
1) a game of skill a game where you have some influence on the final outcome
thru the exercise of your skill
2) a game of luck where TDVegas and others say no skill is available
Are we therefore to resign ourselves to the inevitability that there is no influence to exercise
and no way to effect the outcome , win or lose , we must just accept what happens???
I am not pretending to not know what luck is , I have stated over and over
"LUCK DOES NOT EXIST" It is superstition , voodoo , total BUNK
I am trying to find out how people who believe in it would explain it's existence
or why they rely so heavily on it when they have no idea what the hell it is
TDV says it's a game of luck
Evidently you have the same perception , what is your definition of luck
I have given you my definition it's superstitious hogwash , What say you?
On page 6 in his book Craps: Everything you need to know, 777 advises the reader that while some games of gambling involve skill, craps is a game of luck, not skill.
Keep in mind that the first four pages of said book are the table of contents, so he gets to the heart of the matter pretty quickly.