What Length table are you most comfortable with?

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  1. eagledice, Sep 27, 2011

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    Excellent,,, Excellent statement regarding arc and bounce. One of those things we all tend to "forget" about when we are playing live.

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  2. $nakeEye$, Sep 27, 2011

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    Regardless of table length or shooting position -

    I always try to land the dice at the juncture of the base of the rubber pyramids and the table felt.

    More oft than not -

    The dice just hit and stop -

    I also try to put a lot of backspin on the dice -

    This also helps to eliminate any unwanted influence of the pyramids and/or rolling of the dice -

    Furthermore -

    It satifies the casinos' requirement of " Hitting the Back Wall " -

    With practice - PROPER PRACTICE - any and every thing is possible !
     
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  3. siik2nr, Sep 28, 2011

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    Smaller is better.

    I have a question for the forum.

    I have a practice station at home but I don't know how for to stand from the back wall.

    If the table is a 12 ft table, how far should I measure to my inner leg to the wall?

    If the table is a 14 or 16 ft, the same thing, how far should I stand for the wall?

    Appreciate the help.
     
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  4. $nakeEye$, Sep 28, 2011

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    Not that I am fat for my age -

    But -

    I must admit -

    When I first started out -

    My dice were also flying all over the place -

    My abdominal muscles were definately tightened up from all the bending over that I did to retrieve the dice off the floor -

    Also, not to mention sore knees from trying to locate them when they scatterred all all over the place -

    AH, the good old days -

    Gone, thank God - but not forgotten !
     
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  5. $nakeEye$, Sep 28, 2011

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    My " Flexible practice rig " consists of a stationary receiving area - 30" wide by approx 36" long - with a 48" length of diamond pyramid material at the end - curved evenly so it returns approx. 16" back on both sides-

    My throwing station is my original 24" wide x 18" deep home made PARR / receiving station -

    No wonder I was constantly retrieving the dicxe off the floor -

    In all seriousness - the best re-investment that you could perform is to purchase quality casino grade dice and change them out on a regular basis for fresh ones -

    The casinos - for the most part - but do not take this to bank - change their old dice for new ones approx. each 8 hour shift - so I am told -

    I have not witnessed this personally -

    I have yet to observe the pit bring in new dice at any time -

    Either in AC or the Poconos -

    Strive to simulate actual casino playing conditions -

    Put chips on the table at the table end -

    They're gonna be there in the casino -

    Learn and practice shooting from ALL table positions -

    You might be forced to shoot from a spot that's the only open one -

    Like Sy Syms said " Be an educated consumer " - or something to that effect !
     
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  6. $nakeEye$, Sep 28, 2011

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    The " Stickman " position is centered on each and every table and he occupies approx a 24" wide are -

    On a 12' table - there are usually a Stick 1, Stick 2, Stick 3 and Hook positions before you get to the table end positions -

    Each of these positions are allotted approx. 12" - give or take -

    On a 14' table there is an added Stick 4 position -

    Perhaps someone with an actual 12' table could provide the actual measurements for you !
     
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  7. Southern-Comfort, Sep 28, 2011

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    From the FAQ section on Dice Coach's website.
    "Q. What is the distance from various table positions to the back wall?
    A. It depends on the length of the Craps table. I prefer the 12-foot tables and would suggest this as a starting point for new setters. From stick right to the back wall is approximately 8 feet 2 inches. Some stick people will move back out of your way (especially if you're betting for them) and let you lean to the left. I'm right-handed so it really shortens the toss by a good foot or two."

    Theoretically, add a foot for a 14 footer, 16 inches in more realistic though. Remember you're only adding 1/2 the size of the table to the end you care about.
     
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  8. siik2nr, Sep 28, 2011

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    THANKS! I was measuring about 8' so this was pretty close. I'll back it out another 2" and see how it affects my toss.
     
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  9. Southern-Comfort, Sep 28, 2011

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    Measured it on my 14ft table this morning and I got 9ft 3inches to the wall from shooting position.
     
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  10. uforia98, Sep 30, 2011

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    Thanks ! But I already only play from stick1 anyway :)

    So I was genuinely interested if anyone know where the small tables in LV can be found.

    Any hints are appreciated !
     
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  11. eagledice, Sep 30, 2011

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    We all prefer to play play at our primary positions. Like you I prefer SL1, but there are times that it just is not open. You might want to do a little practice from SL2. If and when I get stuck at SL2, 9 times out of 10, the individual next to me will step back and let me slide over a half a spot of so. I hate the thought of you getting to LV, finding a few good table to your liking, and the SL1 is taken. We have all been down that path.

    Just a recommendation.


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  12. Hardeight, Sep 30, 2011

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    This game is about adapting to your surroundings like a chameleon.I usually play pn 12 ft tables because thats what most casinos have but the length doesnt matter as long as I aim for the bottom of the wall Im good.
     
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  13. Southern-Comfort, Sep 30, 2011

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    The small tables (12 ft) are all over vegas.. You should keep in mind though, that in Vegas there are whats known as "downtown odds" and "strip odds".
    Generally downtown is lower minimum. Downtown odds is generally considering that a field bet on 12 pays triple as opposed to double on the strip.
    I prefer downtown, but make a strip run to at least play at the Paris casino. I just like it.
     
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