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  1. 514natural, Mar 15, 2014

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    Obie1

    Nothing against you, just seems so far fetched, but you're doing this the right if you plan on going through with it.

    Very rare case of put up or shut up. If you speak the truth my hats off to you my friend.

    Best of luck to all
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  2. six shooter, Mar 15, 2014

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    514 Natural....."Plan on going through with this" This may be new for you and people in AC, however, we have done this for hundreds of people and is nothing different for us.

    Thanks for your support, best wishes and hope to see you there.
     
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  3. superrick, Mar 15, 2014

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    This sounds like someone chasing a losing session!

    So now the big question would be, how many winning sessions do you need to get that $6400 back?


    This sounds like the same thing I was told when I was on a table with one more system seller, or was it a strategy or maybe a method! It really doesn't matter, I'm sure you can find somebody's to suck right in! I just wonder how long it will be, for them to have the same type of experience, $6400 down the drain!


    Have no fear there Obie1, as the old saying goes if you can make it through three days of bad press, you have nothing to worry about!

    Oh please where is the common sense now days?
     
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  4. obie1

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    Thanks 514natural:

    Sometimes, even I have a hard time believing my own win streaks... .

    Some say I use a "martingale"... Not So, I (as well as all Strategy Alumni...) have a strict discipline which is the same as Sam Grafstein: "...never press a losing bet". While it is true, with the building up of my "401g" during the past year while using "The Strategy" has enabled me to make larger bets...
    However: "The Strategy" works well at any level of play.

    Thanks for the Well Wishes and God Luck at the table,

    Obie1
     
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  5. obie1

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    Will be in Tunica, Mississippi this weekend (March 22nd thru 25th). Any Forum member or guest who wish to join up with us are welcomed to do so. Contact "Gary" (six-shooter" for exact times and location(s)... He can be contacted by going to: "Diceprofits.com" thread under the "Advanced Craps" discussion topic of this Forum.

    Hope to see you there....,

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  6. superrick, Mar 22, 2014

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  7. superrick, Mar 22, 2014

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    So if you never press a losing bet you then need so many winning bets to recover your losing bets. By now we all should know that nobody is perfect, so that you may have a few losing bet's in a row.

    What do you do to recover them?
     
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    Good question SR:

    My standard procedure after losing a bet (size of bet is not the issue, procedure is...). I must have at least 2 consecutive winning bets.. then: I start increasing my bet(s).

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  9. Hndful1, Mar 26, 2014

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    Touche (couldn't make the accented "e")
     
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    SR:

    Case in point: You mentioned in a previous post "... sounds like you are chasing a losing bet.." to which I replied: "NOT SO..". (I, we) Strategy Alumni; follow the same strict rule as Sam Grafstein: "... Never Chase a losing bet.".

    So, how did I recover from a loss of 6400?.

    First I colored in. We played 3 more sessions that day at a different Casino. I played (humbly...) the first 2 of those sessions mostly at the $5 and $10 level. After getting 2 consecutive wins under my belt, I played my 3rd session a bit more aggressively in the range of $5 to 150.


    The next morning (session # 4, a/t/l).. I played similarly as I did in game 3, except when certain indictors were aligned after winning a few large bets)... I played and won a 1K bet then a 1.5K bet...

    On my 5th session A/T/L ... I played and hit a few large bets (similar to session 4).. and when the (strategy) indicators were aligned, I hit a 5000 buy the "4" with full odds on the pass line bet (CO number was "4") ... Wallah!... "4" was the next number... and paid $10.750. So, to answer your question "... how long did it take me to recover from the loss....": "One Day" or "5 sessions".

    Now, I know: that most players don't play at my level of play, but; the strategy works at any level of play. A year and 2 months ago, I was teeterring on the brink of giving up the game do to not having any disposable income... (receiving just SS and very little to nothing in the bank...). In time, after discovering the strategy.. was able to build up my 401G and now: am comfortable making larger bets.

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  11. Southern-Comfort, Mar 26, 2014

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    As far as I know hitting the back wall has always been the rule. I don't know when the rubberized pyramids were added, but I've seen old photos of dice tables with no pyramids on the backwall, so I guess originally people were tossing against a solid wooden wall with the early, more brittle, dice.
    And As I have said over and over, I do not present this as the actual fact, but as a possible alternate reasoning for their addition. And that, simply because, they simply are not all that effective straight on. Yeas, if you toss across them, of throw at their base so that the dice pop up into them, they can be a problem.
     
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  12. superrick, Mar 27, 2014

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    There are no indicators in craps, you just got lucky, I've tracked tables for years, and I've seen every stupid system there is. Now days there is a new kind of system seller, that just like you say there are indicators, BS is all I can say.
     
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  13. obie1

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    Contraire Rick,

    Every roll of the dice is an "Indicator".

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    I viewed your web sight for the first time today..., Very impressive.

    A few corrections suggested:

    Under "Forum";

    Post #3: "Other things... " "This" -----> All These // "wit" -----> with
    Post #4 "Ask a local.... " -----> it is open to everybody
    post #5 "Las Vegas..." "net" --------> neat

    Good luck and best wishes to you and your website.

    Obie1





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  14. superrick, Mar 27, 2014

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    I've seen your type before with “The Method”, they couldn't say enough good things about it, until they bought your system.


    When yours fails them, what will the next great system be. Without seeing it, it's based on superstition and getting lucky. There is nothing that the dice can tell you about making your next bet. If you haven't seen a 4, for 40 rolls of the dice, it doesn't mean that one is going to show up when the next roll.


    You either get lucky, and win the bet, or loose it, if the next roll just happens to be a 7 out!

    All your doing, is trying to get lucky by making one bet at different times and leaving it up for one roll of the dice.
     
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  15. petroglyph, Mar 27, 2014

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    I thought Graftstein when he mentioned about chasing a bet was referring to " the dark side".

    Quote SG, Dice doctor revisited under past performances " Past performance may occasionally help you in handicapping a horse race or a sporting event. Past performances however, are less than useless at a Craps table, bac or roulette. pg. 26
     
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  16. obie1

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    petroglyph:

    Grafstein was referring to any bet: "Do" or "Don't"... That is why he stated that with one loss on the "Don't" he stops betting (on that shooter) and waits for the next shooter... and if he loses on the "Do" ... he reduces his next bet to a single basic bet (one "Do" number with odds)... until he has a winning bet.

    I don't agree with Sam on everything he wrote or believes.... but do respect him on certain disciplines:
    One of which is: "..Never press a losing bet..."

    Welcome to the Forum... and best wishes for success at the table...,

    Obie1
     
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  17. TDVegas, Apr 8, 2014

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    What was the result of AC trip?
     
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  18. 514natural, Apr 8, 2014

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    I would love to know as well
     
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  19. Southern-Comfort, Apr 9, 2014

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    In their other thread, Sharpshooter says they did well will SnakeEyes and millions of adoring fans watched. I've notice SnakeEyes has skimmed over the board since, and still no post from him.
     
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  20. Sancho Panza, Apr 9, 2014

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    @"I've notice SnakeEyes has skimmed over the board since, and still no post from him."

    He's probably too busy raking in his millions.
     
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