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  1. obie1

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    (a/o: 06/01/14) *Currently: 500 sessions using "The Strategy", resulting in; 494 wins out of the last 500 Casino Craps Sessions, you could achieve the same (win), Go to:

    Diceprofits.com (for Details) Start winning... . There is no reason why you or any new beginner (or advanced craps player for that matter), has to lose at the game of "Casino Craps". Learn "The Strategy" detailed on "Diceprofits.com" and you will not be disappointed.

    *Plus an additional 38 consecutive wins... since 494 o/o 500 recorded.

    "The Strategy" we use: works and has been and is a good source of steady income for myself and those who have learned it.

    Either way...

    "Welcome to The Forum..." and...

    Good Luck,

    Obie1
     
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  2. TDVegas, Feb 17, 2014

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    and someone independent can verify your 429 of 432 wins?
    This stuff is just a crock.
     
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  3. TDVegas, Feb 17, 2014

    TDVegas

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    There are no "patterns or indicators" on the random roll of dice and there has never been anything done to suggest its possible...other than tall tales.
     
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  4. SevenOut, Feb 17, 2014

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    For another good beer, I might be led to believe anything said on this Forum.

    Obie1 and I might differ on procedure... but on another thread I make some adjustments in my thoughts on Dice Control and Game System(s). Dice Control is like chasing fleas off your dog. You can never quite get the last one... and then the others are all over the place again and into your furry zone.

    It is Obie1's SYSTEM I want to hear about. Forget the dice setting and special facts of Physics and mind control. Give me the Substance that counts. THE System. IF a dice shagger like myself can win at Craps... not all of the time... but enough to get me to come back and play... it is the SYSTEM used. Not my dice setting lack of, or ability to control anything.

    A poor game plan, poor money management and combined with "perfect" Dice Control... loser, loser and loser. This is Obie1's secret that will come out, eventually, if someone steps forward. The minions of dice control talk endlessly about dice setting, special tops and fronts, finger holds, etc.. Forget... the special handling of the dice. Give me your GOOD stinking game plan... and leave the dice setting to those with time on their hands, and a sack of YOUR money to practice with.

    The secret is in the ingredients of the cake... not the color and style of the container.

    Come on, obie1. Offer some of the System(s) of Play... and then... add the container. Not the other way around. Only then will we all find that the true value to Dice Setting is the DISCIPLINE of play, not fiddling around with the dice.
     
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  5. Linaway, Feb 18, 2014

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    TDVegas,
    Don’t know how you came to your
    conclusions, but amendments should
    be considered.


    YES, there absolutely are “patterns and
    indicators”. They are perceived at preset
    and observed at outcome. I’m surprised a
    number of DI’s on this board hasn’t
    jumped on this.

    I will not debate this issue with you
    in an open forum, however if you
    want insight, send a PM. You see
    there is order in dice regardless of
    theirchaotic behavior. Many on this
    board know it or and practice part of it.


    Who am I? I am the guy that has lived
    eaten and breathed dice for many years.
    I’ve gotten around the concept of
    everything evolves around math,
    1000’s of rolls and on axis shooting.
    Toss results isn’t just about top
    numbers. Further, dice outcome
    results isn’t just about strategy.


    Probably the most devastating or
    lucrative part of craps is because of
    the dice. If you don’t know “Dice
    Speak”, might be a good idea to
    learn it.


    Linaway
     
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  6. obie1

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    Well said Linaway.

    SevenOut:

    One beer coming up.!

    Sample of "The Strategy" I use: View post # 11" On Thread Titled "Diceprofits.com", at least it use to be post # 11... It should be the post dealing with the appearance of the "7". When I get a chance, I'll search around for it. Tied up tonight, got live "Skype" session in a few minutes with about 30 "alumni" of The Strategy (always a lot of fun and beneficial to all).

    Note: The Strategy betting system does not rely on "DI" skills for its success, I do not rely on DI(s), although; I do believe about 3% to 5% of those who adhere to the belief and practice it are actual able to tilt the percentages in their favor occasionally.

    Roll Well my friend,

    Obie1
     
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    TDVegas:

    Most sessions were witnessed by AXP (Axis Power craps) Members, GTC members, team-mates and Forum visitors who took me up on my invite to come see with their own eyes "The Strategy" in action. You too are welcome to come see with your own eyes, after all "seeing is believing". For witnesses and details see Advance Craps Thread: "Diceprofits.com" or visit our website: "Diceprofits.com". For a schedule of where and when I am playing contact: "Gary", his phone number is listed on above referenced website. He often publishes what Casinos are in our schedule, along with the time and dates.

    As far as a "crock"...: Strange thing about the "Truth": When something is "TRUE", it remains "True" whether you believe it is true or not. What I posted is "True". If you don't believe that it is true, that's fine... you have a right to believe what ever you want to believe... but that doesn't change the "Truth".

    Either way: I wish you well and Good Luck...

    Obie1


     
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  8. six shooter, Feb 19, 2014

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    "TDVegas, post: and someone independent can verify your 429 of 432 wins?
    This stuff is just a crock
    Anyone can sit behind a computer and make accusations, however, it takes a little work to prove and verify. If your willing to get off your chair, you to can find out and report with facts. Any series of numbers has a pattern to it, intense analysis will discover this pattern. Consider the possibility that dice numbers rolled are not all random.

    Hope you come out and verify our claim, we won't even ask for a apology for the slur.

    Either way best of luck to you in your dice venture.
     
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  9. SevenOut, Feb 19, 2014

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    Six Shooter:
    Anyone can sit behind a computer and make accusations, however, it takes a little work to prove and verify. If your willing to get off your chair, you to can find out and report with facts. Any series of numbers has a pattern to it, intense analysis will discover this pattern. Consider the possibility that dice numbers rolled are not all random.
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    I, actually, sit in FRONT of my computer. Maybe that makes me a bit unusual and special.

    "Any series of numbers has a pattern to it." Just like Roulette, I assume. That is why they post the previous numbers on that three foot electric pole. That is like the PowerBall number winners being posted for the last two years... so what?

    My position is there IS a pattern to dice outcomes. They go from 2 to 12. It does not affect how I play, or what table I chose when I have a choice of two or more tables. I prefer to find the $5, maybe a $10 table... but avoid the $25 minimum tables... not because of the dice roll combinations, when I was not playing.

    How is this a "slur" directed towards comments by TDVegas. This is MY view of dice outcomes and I can not prove my point of view any better than you might. I can easily write each outcome on a Craps Table, or on the living room floor and discover that the SEVEN sure comes up.. a lot. It should have been expected. Seven is built into the Dice to come up more often. As far as you and I see the Seven... too often.

    Lets hear your Theory on "not all random" dice outcomes. Mine, as a Dice Slopper numero uno... I prefer the randomness of my outcomes to any NON random outcomes. I would just as well quit shooting Craps if there was NO randomness in the game. Then.... I would say the game is RIGGED.
     
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  10. six shooter, Feb 19, 2014

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    I subscribe to the theory that dice which appear to lack order, purpose and predictability are like certain dynamical systems whose states evolve with time and there behavior can be described mathematically using the chaos theory. Lou has broken the mathematical theory on dice. Am I saying every roll is predictable...........no, what I am saying is there is enough predictability, using the proper betting strategy, to consistently beat the game of dice.

    Best of luck Seven Out!
     
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  11. SevenOut, Feb 19, 2014

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    Six Shooter! You and I will get along very well.

    ...and WHAT was that... again!

    There was NO PREDICTABILITY in my Craps Session this afternoon. Colt 45 1876... I presume.
     
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    SevenOut:

    The sample you are looking for can be found on the very 1st post on page # 18, on Thread titled: "Diceprofits.com" in the "Advanced Craps" Forum Topic.

    Obie1
     
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    TDVegas:

    When you have 11 possible outcomes (numbers) on each roll of the dice; there are patterns. If you "live" for "one event at a time" there are no patterns. If you expand your "vision" to see (look at) the "Bigger Picture" >>>There are Patterns!.!.!

    Expand your vision.

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  14. Linaway, Feb 24, 2014

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    Those that see only the top numbers of dice are limiting themselves to information. Number residency can occur in 5 to 6 different axial arrays. Even those arrays have residency.
    Some have as much as twice the risk.

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    linaway:

    Your observations are keen... :

    Those who have learned and adhere to the principles of "The Strategy" also keep track of;

    "What numbers are not appearing on the Dice" as well as....

    "What numbers are appearing on the dice"... each and every toss of the Dice.

    Thanks for your input.

    Obie1
     
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  16. Linaway, Feb 26, 2014

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    Obie1,

    I see you understand how "Dice Speak". Good job.

    Lets not forget the risk involved with certain kind of numbers such as
    number pairs.


    Next time you hear some lover call out "NOTHING BUT PAIRS",
    know the risk involved. They can come at a price.


    2/12 and Hardways have a 67% chance greater of falling in a 7's laden
    axial array and 33% chance of falling in a lesser 7's axial array


    Linaway
     
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  17. Sancho Panza, Feb 26, 2014

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    How much do we have to expand our "vision" to get past the obstacle of "If you 'live' for 'one event at a time' there are no patterns"?
     
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  18. TDVegas, Feb 27, 2014

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    There are no patterns. The game is random. The DI's are a farce. If someone wants to tell me they can toss 2 dice into the air, have them bounce in some controlled pattern, then hit a back designed to produce random results, then bounce off of that, maybe hit chips, and stop and produce some type of controlled, patterned outcome...I believe you're a farce. I'm in Vegas and I am more than willing to observe any player who claims he is a dice influencer and wins on a regular basis. Let me know time and place. I'd love to witness. No excuses.
     
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  19. KokomoJoe4, Feb 27, 2014

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    lol TD, they, like anyone, will win on occasion.
     
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  20. Linaway, Feb 27, 2014

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    TD,

    You obviously don't have a clue about dice properties. You appear to be locked
    up on the theory that dice are absolutely at random. You don't have vision beyond a top number it would seem. All dice outcome results do not have to be on axis. They pay the same money as those off axis. FYI there are a lot more off
    axis outcome results than there are on axis. In this realm of understanding you
    can and will find patterns and trends. Look outside the box. You never know
    unless you do your homework what might be lurking there in your favor.

    I'm too far away and to old and crippled up to stand at a table and foolishly
    try to prove to a nay sayer anything. I have nothing to prove but you seem to want to prove your theory. Bring it on. Where is your proof? Spell it out clearly and in detail so all knowledgeable crapsters can see it. If what you say is priveleged information, that I can understand. By the way I am not a DI but
    a bones absolute dice conspirator.

    Linaway
     
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