Truth and lies about Craps

Discussion in 'General Craps Discussion' started by Craps Poopshoot, Sep 30, 2017.

  1. gargoil, Oct 6, 2017

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    You are the stupid one troll. Shame on Jacob for allowing you on here to troll the forum.
     
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  2. superrick, Oct 6, 2017

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    It's been about 90 hours since the mass shooting here in Vegas! When my wife worked for the Sheriff's Office in Fla. they had a saying and it went like this "Any bad press would go away if they could make it through the first 72 hours"!

    The news media would move on to something else and the bad press would go away. Well, this holds true with just about anything after 72 hours you start to see less coverage of the main news stories that they were all covering!

    This mass shooting didn't only affect us here in Las Vegas we had concertgoers from all over the country that night!

    Here’s the complete list of fatalities:

    Charleston Hartfield, 34, Las Vegas

    Brett Schwanbeck, 61, Bullhead City, Ariz.

    Austin Meyer, 24, Reno

    Pati Mestas, 67, Menifee, California

    Nicol Kimura, 38, Placentia, California

    Christopher Hazencomb, 44, Camarillo, California

    Andrea Castilla, 28, Huntington Beach, California

    Carly Kreibaum, 33, Sutherland, Iowa

    Steve Berger, 44, Milwaukee, Wisconsin

    Brian Fraser, 39, Walnut, California

    Derrick "Bo" Taylor, 56, Oxnard, California

    Denise Cohen, 58, Carpinteria, California

    Christiana Duarte, 22, Torrance, California

    Candice Bowers, 40, Garden Grove, California

    Lisa Patterson, 46, Rancho Palos Verdes, California

    Rocio Guillen Rocha, 40, Eastvale, California

    Jordyn Rivera, 21, San Bernardino, California

    Austin Davis, 29, Riverside, California

    Laura Shipp, 50, Thousand Oaks, California

    Keri Galvan, 51, Thousand Oaks, California

    Tara Roe Smith, 34, Okotoks, Alberta, Canada

    Calla Medig, 28, Jasper, Alberta, Canada

    Carrie Parsons, 31, Seattle, Washington

    Cameron Robinson, 28, St. George, Utah

    Michelle Vo, 32, Los Angeles, California

    Brennan Stewart, 30, Las Vegas

    Erick Silva, 21, Las Vegas

    Dorene Anderson, 49, Anchorage, Alaska

    Heather Alvarado, 35, Enoch, Utah

    Hannah Ahlers, 34, Beaumont, California

    Stacee Etcheber, 50, Novato, California

    Christopher Roybal, 28, Denver, Colorado

    Victor Link, 55, San Clemente, California

    Melissa Ramirez, 26, Bakersfield, California

    Kelsey Meadows, 28, Taft, California

    Dana Gardner, 52, Grand Terrace, California

    Bill Wolfe, Jr., 42, Shippensburg, Pennsylvania

    Carrie Barnette, 34, Garden Grove, California

    Thomas Day Jr., 54, Corona, California

    Jennifer Parks, 36, Lancaster, California

    Kurt Von Tillow, 55, Cameron Park, California

    Jack Beaton, 54, Bakersfield, California

    Denise Burditus, 50, Martinsburg, West Virginia

    Sandy Casey, 35, Redondo Beach, California

    Angie Gomez, 20, Riverside, California

    Jennifer Irvine, 42, San Diego

    Jessica Klymchuk, 34, Valleyview, Alberta, Canada

    Rhonda LeRocque, 42, Tewksbury, Massachusetts

    Jordan McIldoon, 23, Maple Ridge, British Columbia, Canada

    Sonny Melton, 29, Paris, Tennessee

    Adrian Murfitt, 35, Anchorage, Alaska

    Rachel Parker, 33, Manhattan Beach, California

    John Phippen, 57, Valencia, California

    Quintin Robbins, 20, Henderson

    Lisa Romero-Muniz, 48, Gallup, New Mexico

    Bailey Schweitzer, 20, Bakersfield, California

    Susan Smith, 53, Simi Valley, California

    Neysa Tonks, 46, Las Vegas

    https://lasvegassun.com/news/2017/oct/05/coroner-releases-names-all-58-las-vegas-shooting/

    We are now in the stage of forgetting what happened here and it's something that shouldn't be forgotten! Isn't about time that some of us here get away from the name calling and concentrating on playing craps?

    https://lasvegassun.com/news/2017/oct/06/a-casino-regular-quiet-but-prickly-unleashes-a-ram/
     
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  3. TDVegas, Oct 6, 2017

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    I have personally gone thru each victims story...not just their names----but who they were, what they did. A bio of their lives. A number (58) does not tell a story. A picture does not tell a story. A name does not tell a story. I wanted to read about who they were. I did that.

    I spent a couple hours reading each persons bio to put a life to a face.

    This is an EPIC tragedy that will be forgotten by no one.

    We sometimes lose ourselves in this forum talking about other things....that does NOT mean anyone is forgetting what happened or ignoring what happened.
     
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  4. Liman

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    We lived thru 9-11,finding out how many kids in our school districts lost a parent,firemen and police funerals for weeks,nonstop,so fucking depressing,knowing someone personally who died, no one should ever forget these senseless acts of violence .
    Las Vegas will recover fine,but that doesn't mean anyone will forget that horrific day
     
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  5. DeMango, Oct 6, 2017

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    Rick, on Monday I asked your boy to shut up for just one day. Didn't happen.

    But thanks for the list, and the thoughts.
     
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  6. superrick, Oct 7, 2017

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    Nobody is going to shut up on this forum, you guys are going to keep it up on James and TDB, two guys that you never met. You say, my boy, like I have control over them which I don't but the one thing I have is a face to face meeting with both of them.

    Let's start with James which most on this forum have a problem with for some odd reason. Could it be because he wrote that he doesn't lose? Before I met James I met his wife because he was doing something at the time I got there. We had a long talk and she answered all of my questions about the two of them with the right answers.

    Then there was James on his table and the long talk we had about how he plays craps and what he does on the tables he plays on! I've followed this thread and have let it go its own way when it comes to James like so many other threads on this board. But now it's time to once again speak out. For a bunch of guys that have never met James or TDB, I don't know what to tell you.

    That's because whatever I write I know that you will find a way of attacking it. If I was any of you guys I would shut up until I met James or TDB, for the simple fact that you know nothing about either one of them.

    Now for TDB, I've been on the tables with him a bunch of times and even introduced him to TDV when we were in Red Rock Casino and TDV was playing the bubble machine. That was just a little time after I introduced myself to TDV that day. He was surprised that I knew who he was.

    So I can understand why TDB, keep going back and forth with TDV these two met that day and it must have left an everlasting impression in TDB mind.
    If you want to stop reading about James and TDB stop the attacks on them and they will not have anything to write back about.
     
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  7. twodicebilly, Oct 7, 2017

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    Thanks for posting the names I think that gives a clearer message
    of what really happened there.

    On 911, I was on a Mountain /top in Colorado, and that evening Dennis and
    I were wondering where all the planes went. It was the next day when we
    got out of the mountains that we learned about it.

    Both of my kids called that day wanting to know what this really
    meant i guess . I did not have an answer, I don't understand the
    depths of that cruelty.

    Both of my kids called again the other day !!!!

    twodicebilly
     
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  8. TDVegas, Oct 7, 2017

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    Yes, Rick....I'm sure it did leave an impression. Unless he was lying.

    We all know he doesn't like my opinions about craps...don't go turning this into a personal matter that because he doesn't like my opinions...now, he doesn't like the person. That may be true for him. It's no skin off my back...either way, but his original posting tells a different story than what you are trying to twist. I had no issue. Said a hello to him. Small, polite talk about his trip to Laughlin.

    Then got your Harley story about his greatness and then we all went our separate ways.
     
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  9. wonko33, Oct 7, 2017

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    SR I think you put too much importance on face to face meetings. A lot of good it did when you met Harley for instance. I think there is a value to seeing what people write day to day, about how they are deep down, something they don't show on a first face to face meeting.
     
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  10. TDVegas, Oct 7, 2017

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    You spent months, YEARS with Harley and said the same thing about his craps skills, his roulette skills, his ability to read dice. A single face to face meeting with James Hall and he's a skilled craps player???

    You said the same about Harleys skills...

    We all know that story was complete bullshit.

    What did you actually do?....spend 5 minutes watching Harley play roulette and possibly win and then declared.... "Harley is beating roulette" to everyone?
     
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  11. TDVegas, Oct 7, 2017

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    Exactly...there are 285:p posts from Rick vouching that Harley was gods gift to skilled craps play...AND roulette. AND able to discern bias dice. What a complete crock of shit that turned out to be. Rick has 285 pounds of egg on his face. Don't make it 286.

    He had no face to face meeting with Harley?
    Never spent any time on the craps table with him?

    Somehow he was duped then About Harleys craps abilities....but is right now about James after a 5 minute "shop talk" in his living room?

    Laughable. Spare me the delusional "I can vouch for someone". Howard RR has 9 people vouching for him. That makes him a skilled craps player?

    Meeting with someone or playing craps with someone a couple times doesn't give a window into whether they are skilled or just a random shooter. This is just delusional talk.

    Shit, if that was the case...after our session together, Liman would have been telling the entire board "that TDV can hit hardways numbers like a skilled marksman".
     
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  12. twodicebilly, Oct 7, 2017

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    You cant insult a guy like TDV you cant reason with him, you cant even
    get him to admit he is a jerk..

    Imagine the mentality of a guy that would search the site to see how many
    posts you made about Harley...

    Boggles the mind.....

    Imagine if you would if some one was dumb enough to invest the time to search
    every post that TDV made insulting some one......????

    Now that would be an impressive list it would also be the work of a child
    which is what TDV is..

    tdb
     
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  13. TDVegas, Oct 7, 2017

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    Searching was not needed. Ask tabletop;)
     
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  14. DeMango, Oct 7, 2017

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    Rick, thank you again for a civil debate about your boy from Mesa. Unfortunately he writes stupid shit ALL the time, and he gets called out on it. Then he defends himself with more shit. There seems to be no end to it. Today he is going to save this board by shutting up. Let's see how long that lasts. By the way, has Jacob ever said this board was going down?

    I don't know if you have ever read the years worth of posting of The Cheesehead on Wizard of Vegas Forum. Look up "Dicesitter" Couldn't spell dice setter and it got worse. You are not going to win an argument over there about DI, and for me that's a good thing. But ole Billy didn't get the memo, so he tilted against windmills for years. Sad.

    So that is what we are up against here. We got two individuals, who as talented as they might be, have let that go to their head. Insulted those who don't see their viewpoint. Made delusional statements. Have denigrated those who do dare to question them. In short, an infantile understanding of how to influence people on social media.
     
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  15. TDVegas, Oct 7, 2017

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    Spot on....
     
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  16. TDVegas, Oct 7, 2017

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    The sad part about you is you have been complaining for months about how this site isn't for dice influencers and you can't talk about it.

    Then a fellow DI does something real nice and offers to talk shop with you anytime you want. He goes and makes a thread to talk about DI. Then you go and piss on his leg.

    You're not done. Then you go and insult 4 other members here with your childish "not real players" crap....and these guys aren't even in the discussion. One of those guys has been here for 2 months and as far as I can tell has never dissed you or DI. His contributions have been great. Then you have to go and apologize for it.

    The only one foot stomping and whining like a 5 year old brat...is you. Whatever sandbox you are in...here or WoV, you can't get along unless everyone bows to you.

    Good luck.
     
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  17. twodicebilly, Oct 7, 2017

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    tdv


    That's funny, he did not want a thread about anything, it was a joke..

    here is what he said.....
    Click to expand...


    Now now TT123. I have obliged MR. TwoDice and started a thread. We can talk all we want about DI ;)


    Laughing......................... you got to do better than that.

    tdb
     
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  18. twodicebilly, Oct 7, 2017

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    I was out of line on Missthis1... I admitted that and said so..... where is your apology for all
    the insults you have thrown around ????

    tdb
     
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  19. Bases loaded, Oct 7, 2017

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    No grudge will ever be resolved on the internet, it will only deepen.

    You guys have got to hit the re-set button.

    Change things up, write a long form post about something that interests you. Don't respond just ONE TIME to the other guy's post. I know, this is hard to do, but please try it.

    We need to get this forum moving in the right direction again.
     
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  20. DeMango, Oct 7, 2017

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    Criticism is not an insult, except of course if you are the one being criticised.
     
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