Trump might lose...because of them...

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  1. basicstrategy777, Oct 11, 2019

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    TDB....this move by Trump is big....it sends a signal.......American make up is for quick, total victory's......the oriental/mid-east mentality is different......they'll wait 100 years.........I believe to pull all out 100% is a mistake, although I understand Trump asking WHY and the answers provided did not convince him.....make no mistake, this move, if carried thru, will be a big mark on his history/legacy....it will be very good or very bad.......it is a big shift in thinking from the highest office from all previous presidents......but to some extent, they had no balls and were controlled by others......He is controlled by no one and had chewed on how America has done things and how he would do things for 40 years......he KNOWS what he wants to do and accomplish and it will be difficult for someone to change years of thinking.....the question becomes....is he right .........I really love everything about the guy and have agreed with virtually all that he has done......there is nothing that he has done that I am violantly against...........to whom much is given much is expected....hence, our position in global matters.....but times are changing and we are not as strong as we use to be....now, we have to think of ourselves more.......

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  2. Bases loaded, Oct 11, 2019

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    Turkey is in NATO, right?

    Aren't there some rules they should be following?

    Any attempts to exterminate the Kurds will not be viewed kindly by their NATO allies, right?
     
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  3. twodicebilly, Oct 11, 2019

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    I agree with some of that, but the reason he is doing that is because he thinks
    if he does some of what he said he would do they cant impeach him...….

    This is not like bulling a zoning administrator or contractor...….these enemies
    dont give in and the longer he goes down the road he is on, the harder it will
    be for rep congressman and senators to stay on his side...they have elections
    to win also, and theirs means more to them than his, just like his means more
    to him than theirs. Trump has a dug a very deep hole.

    AS for the world.. China is not pulling back, Russia is not pulling back, the idea of democratic socialism is not dying.....If we pull back we create a void for all our
    enemies to fill and they will....Our government has screwed us......we are 22 trillion
    in debt, there was a time we could build up our military with no end in sight because
    we had access to more money...….that day is gone, now Russia and China have
    access to more than we do. I think we still have an edge, but we cant back down
    now and then think we can again flex our power at some point when we are behind.

    Our political system is interesting and unique, but it is also vulnerable because it
    is ever changing, may times major changes every 4 or 8 years....our enemies never change they see 10 years, 20 years ahead...they see how far we have fallen and how much we have changed just in past 20 years, hell half of this country does not believe in
    the constitution anymore..China seeks our downfall as certain.

    We can not pull back

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  4. basicstrategy777, Oct 11, 2019

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    TDB....I wish you would stop looking at everything he does, no matter what it is, thru your 'he is only doing it to help himself' lense..........please....give me a break.

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  5. HornHiYo, Oct 11, 2019

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    Whatever Trump calls it and for whatever his reason I wish he would have given allies a heads up and some time to rethink their strategy before pulling the plug on their support.
    Kinda left them high and dry; or is it more like up shit creek without a paddle.
    Today some recent dead may still be alive had they been alerted in advance.
     
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  6. twodicebilly, Oct 11, 2019

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    Why???? what he does and what he says is the problem, look at what he
    did today in that news conference..who in their right minds talks like that.


    I understand where your at....your just as scared as I am about the future of
    this country, but I am much more afraid of Trump losing because of Trump, than I am of
    them beating us because they have better ideas.

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  7. Bases loaded, Oct 11, 2019

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    Trump is Trump, what you see is what you get.

    He don't have to worry about my vote.

    The small sliver of America that now determines who wins elections is behind him too. Because he brought back jobs, let people keep more of their money, kept his promises about the wall and getting out of 'endless wars', etc.

    The voters see it, and feel it. They will vote accordingly.

    His only worries are the insane, kamikaze dems who will do anything, even destroy us, to get power.
     
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  8. twodicebilly, Oct 12, 2019

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    Well, look and listen


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    Turkey and Syria is another situation where we get involved in a situation that likely has no end.

    Turkey is pissed and worried that the Kurdish rebels in Syria along their border and going to hook up with the Kurds in Turkey. The Kurds in Turkey have apparently wanted their own autonomy (country?) within Turkey's border for a long time.

    That isn't flying with Turkey. So, they bomb the Kurds in Syria to send a message.

    We are in the middle like a punching bag.

    While there may have been better ways to pull out....this starts to look like termites spreading. The entire region has so many ethnic and people issues that impact one another....I begin to think, ok, "good luck with all that but I'm out".
     
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  10. von duck, Oct 12, 2019

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    Trump lost a couple of court cases, B.S. One case was on wall funding, and believe it or not, filed by "El Paso county. :confused: The other was on tax returns. He has to turn them over. :cool:
     
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  11. basicstrategy777, Oct 12, 2019

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    Trump doesn't lose court cases....and there were 3 not 2.......higher courts will rule in his favor........do you really think his accounting firm will turn over his tax returns.......don't hold your breath.......and the wall is going up as we speak.....and will continue to go up........you think some clinton appointed lower court judge is going to stop him.....you just never, never learn duck......it baffles me.

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  12. MisterInside, Oct 13, 2019

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    Eventually his tax returns will be leaked. What will they reveal? That he used every loophole that he could to minimize his tax liability. Just like every one of us. Only his numbers have a lot more zeroes.

    He's got bigger problems than that. He's starting to lose some of his base. It's not enough to have him removed from office, but it is enough to prevent his re-election in less than 13 months. His "kissing Obama's ass" and "bullshit" oratory last week stokes his base but hurts with those suburban voters that he needs to pull off another miracle. And Rudy? With friends like him...........
     
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  13. Grizzoola, Oct 13, 2019

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    We need to see his income sources. Are his Russian, Ukraine, etc. dealings fucking up our foreign policy? And, it is fucked up like everything else.
     
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  14. basicstrategy777, Oct 14, 2019

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    the only thing that bothers me and could get him is the southern district in NY......I believe that is his greatest danger area......criminal stuff...state stuff......won't happen for a while, however.

    if people are turned off and he loses people, it won't be from his base....they are with him......he is doing everything he said he would do....why would they leave......what are his reversals.....there are none........transparant and keeps his promises........people that read 50 shades of gray but don't like his language .....people are true hypocrates .......you're in or your out.....this dancing around back and forth means they don't know what is at stake here........you can't be a chameleon and change with the moment.....you know what you are getting with him......you are IN or you are OUT.......if you are on the edge, you better have your priorities right or you will be back to the era of the black prick, who damn near did us in......with Trump you have strong miltary....strong economy....higher wages.....full employment....lower taxes.....a man of inclusiveness.....a strong leader....a nation once again respected and feared.........all things that did not exist before he came in........and you are concerned that he grabs pussy and says naughty words ( but appropriate ones and what is on the minds of folks but don't say) ......fuck that......if you were picking sides.....would you pick him or pocahantas......or some queer fuck that wants 3 bathrooms......who would fight harder...who would not give up.....who would give it all they had....who loves America the most and has shown it by making great sacrifices to take on the job.......who would WIN........you know it and I know it......if independents are truly independent....they will choose the right man for the job.....IMHO



    and what the hell do his taxes of 10 years ago have to do with running the country..........the Grizzes are just looking for another 'gotcha' moment.......let it go....let him do his job.....you like what he is doing or you don't.......let him wheel and deal and get this country back.........let's all say MERRY CHRISTMAS again......



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  15. MisterInside, Oct 14, 2019

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    Somebody of substance in going to jump into this Presidential race as Biden's stock takes a dive and as the President's re-election likelihood grows dimmer and dimmer.

    I hope that it is not HER, but I would not be shocked. I am afraid that it might happen.

    I hope that it's this guy. He's Presidential, brilliant and sensible. I disagree with him on some key issues such as abortion, but it would be hard to find a Dem who is pro-life. I can't see myself voting for anyone who voted against Brett Kavanaugh and I can't see myself voting for Trump. The President has done many good things, but I've had enough of his daily lying, inconsistencies, contradictions and idle promises. Neither he, nor Biden will be elected in 13 months. The Democratic candidate will most definitely win. Michael Bloomberg has all of the necessary qualifications to be President. We could do a lot worse, but I do not think that we could do better.

    I don't think that Ukraine-gate is an impeachable offense and I don't think that he will be removed, but the cumulative impact of the last 35 months have turned me off to Donald Trump despite his many accomplishments. He conducts himself in an abhorrent manner seemingly every day. I have had enough.


    https://www.cnbc.com/2019/10/14/blo...sident-if-biden-struggles-against-warren.html
     
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  16. Bases loaded, Oct 14, 2019

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    To all you Trump haters....

    You're gonna vote for Elizabeth Warren??

    Good luck with that.
     
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  17. basicstrategy777, Oct 14, 2019

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    It makes sense the democrat candidate will win........great platform....honorable people.......they did great last time in office.......this guy obviously has made a mess of it and obviously is not up to the job.....he just doesn't hack it......words matter.

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    :) The therapy is working. :cool: Now, show them your new handle "Mohammad 777".
     
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  19. basicstrategy777, Oct 15, 2019

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    Name me the top worse things he has done, that make you not vote for him............I'd like to know your thinking on what he has done to hurt America...and what he has done that you don't like enough to vote him out of office.............

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    " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. " T.R.
     
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