Trump Derangement Is Destroying Political Analysis

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  1. basicstrategy777, Nov 7, 2019

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    Trump Derangement Is Destroying Political Analysis
    Trump Derangement Is Destroying Political Analysis
    Coverage of a new poll out from Monmouth beautifully illustrates how Trump Derangement destroys what should be simple political analysis. The poll was brutal for impeachment fans in the media, but they didn't report that.

    By Mollie Hemingway
    November 6, 2019The last four years of political punditry and analysis have been objectively wretched. Regardless of your feelings about the present political moment, precisely no one can defend the quality of the analysis that dominates the airwaves and pages of our corporate media.

    They told us throughout the 2016 campaign that the notion of Donald Trump winning the presidency was a joke. The mockery increased as election day drew near. From the Washington Post: “Donald Trump’s chances of winning are approaching zero.”

    At 10:20 P.M. on election night, The New York Times assured us that “Hillary Clinton has an 85% chance of winning.” They gave Hillary a 95 percent chance of winning Michigan, a 93 percent chance of winning Wisconsin, and an 89 percent chance of winning Pennsylvania. They declared, in other words, that the probability of Trump winning all three of those states, which he did, was 0.04 percent.

    Their numerical confidence colored their reporting throughout the campaign in ways that materially supported their political cohorts, chiefly Hillary Clinton. Then they responded to their humiliating failure to understand the electorate by rolling into a series of delusional conspiracy theories they claimed explained his victory.

    While failing to understand the country you’re paid big bucks to understand is humiliating, admitting their failure would have been a better alternative to the spiral of Trump Derangement that grips many of our media and continues to make their political analysis a sad joke.

    Our low quality of punditry and analysis is on display in the crime-less impeachment that they are currently pushing to mixed success. Democrats and other Resistance members are absolutely on board. The rest of the country? Not so much.

    Coverage of a new poll out from Monmouth beautifully illustrates how Trump Derangement destroys what should be simple political analysis. The poll was brutal for impeachment fans in the media. Just less than 60 percent of respondents agreed that “people who want Trump out of office should just vote him out next year instead of going through impeachment.” Seventy-three percent have little or no trust in the impeachment process. And 60 percent say Democrats are more interested in bringing down Trump than in learning facts.

    Here’s what much of the Twitterverse pulled out of the poll instead:


    The numbers on that question for Democrats, which many in the media completely ignored, are even worse.

    Trump approvers (43 percent of respondents) were asked if he could do anything that would make them disapprove of him. Of that group, 62 percent said there’s nothing he could do to make them disapprove of his job performance. That’s the question media are focusing on to prove how stupid and tribal those Republican voters are.

    But Trump disapprovers (51 percent of respondents) were similarly asked if Trump could ever do anything aside from resigning that would make them approve of his job performance. Guess what: 70 percent of disapprovers said there’s nothing he could possibly do to earn their approval of his job performance.

    So if one wants to argue that one party is mindlessly tribal, the numbers clearly show that the anti-Trump Resistance is the most mindless and tribal faction in American politics today. And the actions of the Resistance only prove this point, from refusing to accept the election results, to fighting the Electoral College, to fantasizing about ousting Trump via the 25th Amendment, to supporting an unelected and unaccountable resistance in the bureaucracy, to the dangerous and eventually debunked Russia collusion hoax that spawned a damaging special counsel probe, to the most recent incarnation of their multi-year impeachment efforts.

    But wouldn’t a better analysis merely note that people in political parties tend to support their party’s top official and oppose the opposing party’s top official? That’s actually quite normal. For example, Democrats largely supported President Bill Clinton even after he was caught lying under oath, suborning perjury, obstructing justice in an investigation over sexual assault allegations, and impeached and sanctioned by the U.S. Supreme Court.

    How much less surprising, then, is it that Republican voters are standing by President Trump, who hasn’t been accused by Congress of breaking any law, let alone committing a high crime or misdemeanor warranting removal from office? Is it surprising that Republican voters support President Trump after he has accomplished much of what they elected him to do and has done so in the face of unprecedented resistance operations and years of false accusations of being a traitor to the United States?

    It’s not surprising to anyone who has ever followed any era of politics since the U.S. founding. Failure to treat Republican voters or their president as normal is making a mockery of political analysis.
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  2. MisterInside, Nov 10, 2019

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    You just can't make this shit up.

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  3. von duck, Nov 12, 2019

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    :cool: Turn out the lights
    The party's over. :)
    Nothing he could do that would "win" their disapproval?
    How about this. Trump gets caught in bed, sandwiched between, Hilary, and Nancy? Or better yet, gets caught in bed with Putin. Approve THAT!
     
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  4. basicstrategy777, Nov 12, 2019

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    that's about all you got duck....a big pile of empty words filled with ka-ka......no substance..........the guy will continue to win....and you will continue to get kicked in the nuts..........this impeachment stuff is just a phony balony..........it is a joke and you know it.......he has 300 million to deploy and his coffers are growing.......you might as well tape your wrists to your ankles duck as it looks like that will be your permanent position for a loooong time.......if they ever made a bonze statue of you to be placed outside of trump tower.....that would be it......the duck bending over grabbing his ankles...............and you might want to take your favorite cologne with you......might help

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    If the democrats can find a decent candidate, then I think trump loses. He's not gonna get the black vote, he's not gonna get the Hispanic vote, he will get nearly 100% of the "dumbass" vote, though.
    I don't think he'll be ousted in an impeachment trial. :cool:
     
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    [email protected]#$king 777s..LOL..:D
     
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  7. basicstrategy777, Nov 13, 2019

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    Our problems go waaaay beyond what one man, even in the position of President can solve. The problem is our nation is so corrupt, immoral, decadent and weak that we collectively don’t have the will to do what is right and preserve what’s left of our Republic. Trump is mostly a wake up call and revelation on just how far gone our institutions are and how our politicians (and public employees who are working for them) at all levels of government are basically plundering the country. It is a wake up call about how most of the country has turned away from God and his commandments and now openly embrace evil. The writing is on the wall. Trump is the last gasp of fresh air before we descend into societal and economic collapse. Once Trump is gone, God’s reprieve will be over.
     
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    duck using the trumpster for a punching bag........

















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    is that the duckster ?..........pose looks familiar.

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    LM(FING)AO...I just lost my coffe..LOL..LOL
     
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    It IS, and WAS, like I said it was. There is nothing wrong with withholding aid, but to do it for such an obvious, political, reason, just proves what I've said all along, "the guy's got ethical issues. He won't be ousted, in an impeachment vote, but he will be, in the next election. :cool: You probably keep this photo in your nightstand, along with some lotion, don't you? not that there's anything wrong with that. :)
     
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    Duck.....you forget his background.....he is a cutthroat businessman....any edge you can get.......that's how he got to be a billionaire.......you do what you gotta do to win back America......the land of the free and the home of the brave.....it's a jungle out there.

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    The problem with something like this is, what if Ukraine did agree to investigate, but found no wrongdoing. What would trump do then? Say, we are withholding all aid, until you DO find something? This was a very bad move on trumps part, and makes him unelectable. He should drop his bid, and give somebody else a crack at it. But, he is not realistic enough to do that, and you, not realistic enough to see that that's what he needs to do. :cool:
     
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    duck....the beautiful thing about what is going on is that it is not complex but very easy to understand .........even those with average to below average intelligence understand it.........the deplorables and even some democrats and minorities and independents understand it............they understand no wrong was done by the President RE: the transcript......I mean come on....there is no crime there.........they understand the biden thing RE: his kid getting money he didn't deserve and only because his father was VP.......it right out there plain as day......they understand the kangaroo court going on in the house.....they understand trump is being railroaded.......they understand more money in their pocket and in their 401k.......it's all very, very simple..... ........you see it and accept it and believe it or you see it and deny it thru mental gymnastics.......but I believe most people look...see....and believe.......and this is a big, big plus for Trump...........that you and those like you don't see this, is a good thing.........you really won't know what hit you in 2020..........."wow...I didn't see that coming"...the duck says.......D-U-M-B.......and the way you think about Trump is the reason you will be buried with your wrists taped to your ankles......you just never, never learn.


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