TOO Much DRAMA !

Discussion in 'General Craps Discussion' started by $nakeEye$, Aug 22, 2015.

  1. TDVegas, Aug 28, 2015

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    Yes, but we are talking about a skill that has been defined---the best will be at the US Open this week. Other than a DI making the claim that he can...there is no proven evidence it works.
     
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  2. Pressit, Aug 28, 2015

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    Yes my mind, and my bank account. I was just in LV, had 4 very EXCELLANT sessions at one of those no sweat strip casinos. They kept looking at me and I kept smiling back. Oh the heat they gave me was tremendous. Heat LOL
     
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  3. Pressit, Aug 28, 2015

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    The plan is to walk away with as much house money as possible, and not to run your "bankroll" down to zero.
     
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  4. Onautopilot, Aug 28, 2015

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    My schedule is very flexible, and I was planning a trip to Vegas in Sept. or Oct., so let me know when your schedule is fixed and you will be there, and maybe we can get together. I don't really think a couple sessions would confirm or dismiss any DI claims, but I think it would be an interesting observation....and who knows, maybe we both will make some money, I'm always up for that. :)
     
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  5. hartzehn22, Aug 28, 2015

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    That sounds really good. I'll look forward to meeting you. I will let you know my plans as soon as I have something firm on the dates. I have a pretty flexible schedule as well but I'll try and give you a week's notice so you too can plan.
     
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  6. Dave G Ct, Aug 28, 2015

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    TD just found out that Foxwoods has the Shoot To Win Azzure Bubble. Are bets in amounts like $5 or $10 . I see you have 10 seconds to Bet. Need some getting used to
     
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  7. TDVegas, Aug 28, 2015

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    Should be an option for $1---$5---$10----$25----$50-----$100 chip selection.
    10 seconds is too fast. Most here are set to 20 seconds between rolls.

    Depending on how the machine is set, the minimum bets could be anywhere from $1 to $5.
     
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  8. TDVegas, Aug 28, 2015

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    well, that's an outcome. I was asking more about strategy. Does he play inside numbers?, is he always changing numbers?, hardways? covers the bases? horn? Fire bet? Strategy was my intent or some idea of it.
     
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  9. Dave G Ct, Aug 28, 2015

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    TD what is the payout for a $5 and $,10 6&8?
     
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  10. TDVegas, Aug 28, 2015

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    $5 on 6 or 8----$5.85

    $10 on 6 or 8----11.70

    These machines pay down to the penny.
     
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  11. Dave G Ct, Aug 28, 2015

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  12. TDVegas, Aug 28, 2015

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    Since you are tracking your results and it seems you've been successful for a while, what have you determined from a mathematical point what your edge is? In other words, how have you skewed randomness into non-randomness---from a numbers and percentage viewpoint?
     
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  13. Pressit, Aug 28, 2015

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    Well it is hard to say what numbers he is playing, but if it were I and the point was 6 or it's sister I bet $6 on the other number and a $5 5 and a $5 field. Once I have the 5, 6, 8, 9 covered the 4 and 10 will soon be covered. The it is just a matter of making: same bet, press it, or parlay my 4 or 10. My PL bet I'll double it on naturals, and on points I'll up by 50%. As far as recording tosses, my place bets tells me what numbers I'm hitting. Press, press with no regrets.
     
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  14. DeMango, Aug 28, 2015

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    No, not me, and the numbers don't lie.
     
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  15. superrick, Aug 28, 2015

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    Pressit, I don't understand why everybody has to prove there are DI's! I will say this one more time you need guys like TDVegas on all of the boards, you may not like what he post, but if you didn't have different opinions where would we all be, would we still be looking to fall off the end of the earth?

    Different opinions are a teaching tool we can all learn from them. Let's not stick our heads in the sand, thinking we know it all. We should embrace the guys that say it isn't so!
    When it come to being a so-called DI, nobody has even proved that it can be done. There isn't one so-called expert that has ever made a few slow-motion videos that show how their dice are landing and if they are staying on axis. I will tell you why that hasn't been done yet because they can't do it!

    There is no room for fiction on any craps board, but we have these boards that do nothing to put a stop to it because they are using it to sell their classes.

    You can win at craps if you use smart betting, You have to know that every time you walk into a casino you will not win. There are bad days, that you can't do anything right. You should never play tired, sick or have anything bothering you.

    I see way to many guys coming into Vegas and as soon as the step off the plane they are running to a craps table to play. That is one of the worst things anybody can do! They think that because they belong to the exclusive DI club, that they are going to kill the tables wrong is all I can say!
     
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  16. betwthelines, Aug 28, 2015

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    demango, you posted this on tuesday and i havent yet read the rest of this thread so may be missing something and i did see your earlier posts regarding getting virtually out of the market...

    ...but my tact, my response to the 2 day market "crash" was quite the opposite of yours...i saw it as a buying opportunity...now the primary reason i viewed it this way---and something that has actually worked well for me over the years---was that i perceived the drop as primarily an emotional response to CURRENT HEADLINES (yuan devaluation etc), headlines that will be all but forgotton in a week or so...not that my perceptions are always right --- far from it --- and i am not naive to think that emotion is not always a factor in the market but it is not always the primary factor: sometimes actual fundamentals or other hard, corporate informations is primary...

    ...so anyway i bought in for more of some of my historically successful stocks and even some precious metal plays that also took a(nother) dive over those few days and which have been in the doldrums for what seems like 2 years now...now it is friday and i have fully recovered from the 2-3 day drop...

    ...just another perspective of the stock market casino...

    tom "home runs are sometimes boring" p
     
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  17. TDVegas, Aug 28, 2015

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    Absolutely. It was mostly panic selling and a lot of people got burned. I added some Apple at ~104 and Facebook at ~85. Some of these guys were selling apple at 92!! It is now 20 points higher. If you let negative news out of Greece or China determine your selling of shares, you probably should not be in the market.
     
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  18. betwthelines, Aug 28, 2015

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    well, yes and no.

    greece and china and more is problematical for the long term. but at least for now i did see the sell-off as panic selling in response to "current" news, which these days --ok maybe hillary's emails excepted, lol -- is current for about 48 hours at most... and, like you, decided to (try to) take advantage of it...i ended up with more shares---hence more risk--- of, again like you, stocks i already owned with the overall dollar value about the same as a week and a half ago...so i look at it, accurately i guess, as "recovery" only so far...

    ...although seriously in the doldums for maybe the last 3 years or so, i still like the metals long term (saying the same for "maybe the last 3 years or so" notwithstanding!)...the current price of silver is below the cost of production but (unlike gold so much) does remain sensitive to the general industrial economy ...also the way i see it, how can oil not be a good play right now? at least medium and long term...

    ...or so it goes in the stock market casino, a long-time bastion of legalized gambling....

    tom "home runs are sometimes boring" p
     
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  19. Onautopilot, Aug 28, 2015

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    I stopped playing the market when I discovered "real estate".....that was about 30 years ago. :)
     
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  20. TDVegas, Aug 28, 2015

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    I had bought Apple originally at 22 and it went as low as ~8 (pre 2 splits). I mostly stuck with it mainly because I believe buying/selling/buying is a fools game. When I bought it there wasn't much more than apple computers. There was no iPhone or iPad and it was a micro company compared to today.

    I've had clunkers as well but on an overall basis---apple is gold. It has had drops but always seems to find a way higher. I lightened up when Jobs first appeared very thin and his health took over news. In hindsight, it was a mistake to sell.

    I remember walking thru a relatively empty mall---the one store that was beyond packed was the Apple store. I said right there---this is something.

    Real estate can be very lucrative--I just have no interest in becoming a landlord to a renter. Flipping houses in Vegas has become a very tough nut now.
     
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