TOO Much DRAMA !

Discussion in 'General Craps Discussion' started by $nakeEye$, Aug 22, 2015.

  1. $nakeEye$, Aug 22, 2015

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    Fellow " Crapsters " - to coin a phrase from " Wizard " -

    THIS forum just has TOO much " DRAMA " for ME -

    I am a simple person - NOT simple minded - just simple in my beliefs -

    For the life of me -

    I can NOT fathom how ANYONE would even CONTEMPLATE defecating in a urinal -

    Let alone to make THAT theme - HIS venue -

    To have a " Feces Fetish " is apparently " NORMAL " -

    In " SOME " areas - whether they be Geographical or Mental -

    I can AND will live without the mental and linguistic limitations of individuals such as UCDT -

    For those of you that live for his " Words of Wit " -

    Eat his little " Balls of Shit " ! -

    As for me -

    I could care less about Harley, TDVegas and quite a few other of you " Random Rollers " -

    I wish ALL the " Best of Luck " at the tables, craps and whatever -

    And ALSO -

    Nothing " But THE Best " in ALL of your life endeavors !

    Maybe I will post again -

    Maybe NOT -

    This forum for ME - has served its' usefulness quite some time ago !

    Good Luck and " God Bless " to ALL !

    $...eE..$
     
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    Well put there young man. I just love a good drama and there are certainly some outstanding drama queens on here.
     
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  3. Dave G Ct, Aug 22, 2015

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    Well put. You put up a post and no one responds on point. Just as that knitwit Bubba for instance.learn anything here? Few good posters- the rest can be described as rif- raf. My opinion
     
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  4. Dave G Ct, Aug 22, 2015

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    One last thing Snakeyes.
    One reason why there is such acrimony is that you are posting to mostly perennial LOSER' S. They can come up with all the math platitudes but they are still losers and resent anybody having any success. When Big Ben had his 6 point Fire Bet - how many of these " heroes applauded his feat? Face it most here are jealous miscontents .
     
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  5. tabletop123, Aug 22, 2015

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    I wouldn't call it Jealousy! They are considered "Non Believers". Certainly Nothing wrong with That!!!! Listen..... If I spent 30-50 yrs on the Rail, & never experienced a Skilled shooter, I'd feel the same Way!!!! MOST people don't play at 4A.M. Monday Through Thursday on Empty tables, so the likely hood of seeing a Skilled shooter is "Nada". The "Ones" (DI's) that are REALLY trying to win are playing at Odd Hours when Mostly everyone is in Bed. They are trying to get the Dice Back at a Pretty Fast clip, & they usually Disdain more than 2-3 others at the same Table. MOST want a Completely empty table with no spectators, Drunks, Prop Bettors(Because they SOMETIMES bring the Game to a Snail's Pace), or "Newbies at the Table. Set, Toss, Collect. Lather, Rinse, Repeat!!!!

    Truth be Told, I side More with the Naysayers than the DI's, when they make some of these Outrageous claims. I've Dissected EVERY aspect of Dice Influencing in the Comfort of My home, & I've had Literally Thousands of Casino Sessions. Make all the claims you want, but you can't fool "Father Nature". As I've said MANY times...... The ONLY DI's that are CONSISTENTLY beating the Game, are Those that Possess that "Outlier" Gift that MUST be combined with Versed Tossing. You CANNOT have one without the Other. Sorry, Folks, a Beautiful toss WITHOUT being Lucky too, will NOT put you ahead of the Game. This is why Most Cannot DI for a Living. Some have the Toss "Down Pat", but unfortunately there's no Luck to combine with the Versed Toss.


    Efren Reyes(Considered one of the Best Cue Artist in the World) could NOT win a Pool Tournament for the better Part of five Years. Beat every Top Player in the Back Rooms(Money Matches), but Continuously Finished Second in the Tournaments. He was once Tabbed: "The Brides Maid". Then, all of a Sudden...... His Luck Changed, & the Rest is History. Won dam near every tournament for two Years straight(Including World Titles). Sheer Talent, without Luck, will Keep you "Scuffling", & "Dead Broke" at the Crap Tables. Continued Success Every one!!
     
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  6. The Comeback Kid, Aug 22, 2015

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    This storm shall pass.
    They always do.
    Roll on my friends
     
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  7. Harley, Aug 22, 2015

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    LoL .... Hilariously SnakeEyes can dish out the drama but he can't take it ... You are typical of everything an abusive and cowardly bully is

    (Edited to add "and cowardly" to define someone that used to hide behind a badge, but now hides behind his monitor defending snake oil salesmen like Mad Professor, Heavy, Frank Scoblete and yes Howard - they all have a common thread and SnakeEyes is sitting behind his computer to defend them)
     
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  8. KokomoJoe4, Aug 22, 2015

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    Awesome input into the thread about drama queens and craps.

    Real life experiences (and all of ours will differ) with reasonable/believable info about shooting skill and success or lack thereof at the game. Great post tt123.
     
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  9. Dave G Ct, Aug 22, 2015

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    Okay they are not jealous. However these ";heroes" are perennial losers. You know it- I know it. It has nothing to do with DI. Somebody had a great hand you laud them- not call them liars. Bunch of no class individuals. There are some exceptions so I will not paint everybody with the same brush. You know them- the ones that squark the loudest.
     
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  10. tabletop123, Aug 22, 2015

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    Dave, I think that's being a little bit too Presumptuous. However, I do agree with entering the Casinos with a Positive Attitude. Has no Bearing Whatsoever on The Outcome of the Dice, But (In my Opinion) a Positive attitude Gives you More control Over YOU!!! Contrary to popular belief, you will NOT control the Dice. You may get lucky & exert a little Influence over the dice, But you'll find it's MUCH easier to influence Yourself, as opposed to the Dice. I NEVER enter a Casino EXPECTING to lose. If that were the case, why not just mail the casino my Money, & save the Gas Expense & three hour Commute.

    There will ALWAYS be Naysayers, so get used to it. Now, if YOU think that your Stellar shooting & Sound betting skills are gonna "Get you there", you are in for a VERY rude awakening on down the Road. Toss Perfectly, Bet Conservatively, & see where THAT sometimes leads You. Back to your Hotel Room, or in SOME cases....... Back to the House. No guarantees playing a Negative expectation Game.

    You have to see the game for what it is, & regard Dice influencing as "A little something Extra from the Tooth Fairy from time to time". Now, Superrick is an enigmatic sort of Guy! Takes a ton of thinking to figure him out. Is he FOR or AGAINST Dice Influencing? It's really hard(For those that haven't spoken to him in great Length) to figure the Guy out. It's because even though he's a DI, he won't feed you "The Shit". You know...... Take you down the Long & Disastrous Path to Nowhere. Telling you that If you become a Di that you'll win all the time. Take Hundreds of Thousands off of the Tables. Be able to keep your dice "On Axis" as your skill improves, etc.

    Now, I've had a Table in my Garage for the Better part of six years, & did NOT have common sense enough to Challenge what the "Guru's" were Teaching. WHY? Because I wanted to BELIEVE sooooooooo Very Bad! Wanted this DI'ng thing to be the next best thing since sliced Bread. Had conversations with SR & wanted to rip his Friggin head off EVERY time that he conveyed something that opposed DI'ng!! Then, one day I told Myself........ Let's see!! I have the Proper equipment to confirm or Deny SR's Statements. Boy, was I in for a Big Friggin surprise. These Revelations, Experiments, etc, shed a WHOLE NEW LIGHT on Dice Influencing. Next Up, I had the HONOR of Befriending a Gentleman by the Name of Linaway. Yeah, most of the Guru's call him a "Quack". However, that's the farthest thing from the Truth.

    Now, everyone Knows that Kokomo is a Very Practical sort of Guy. A "Tough" craps Player, betting ONLY the Passline with Odds. Ask Kokomo what HE thinks of Linaway. So....... Nowadays, Knowing What I know, I play a Pretty Conservative game (More conservative than Most). Try to release the Dice in my Own Unique way, HOPING for the BEST Outcome, but ALSO knowing EXACTLY if My outcomes are in a "Safe", or Perilous Array. Looking to get MY money(Initial Wager) off the table as Quickly as Possible, because I KNOW that REGARDLESS of how GOOD I'm Tossing........ Those sharply Squared acetate Cubes are STILL like two Fickle Bitches. They'll Lead you astray More times than not, IF you're NOT careful. Continued Success Everyone!
     
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  11. NewrollerFB, Aug 22, 2015

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    I will just chime in here...yes there is a ton of BS on this forum...but I do learn things here....from most of the regulars....The Full Monte betting system(thanks 7out) as an example...I have used it once in a while and it worked out ok for me.....Liman's theory of playing the HWs on a bubble machine when the count hits 100 rolls since it was last seen(thanks Liman)...it has worked out ok for me....I read trip posts and get info about the best places to play...or not play...I have talked to those that think you can have some influence with DI and those that do not think you can have any influence...I myself like to roll the dice and I try it in a more controlled way than just flinging them....I seem to have better rolls than those that are on the table just chucking them...this is my experience.....mine....it may not be yours....I have posted when I win and when I lose. Thankfully so far most of my trip reports have been in the positive....I never claim to have won thousands, I am happy with my $50 to $200 wins....I WON...I beat the odds...I know it will not always be so, but it is in my competitive nature to try and gain any advantage I can. It is in my head that I contemplate this and this is how I play....I also know that I am pretty new to it all and I get little gems of info here after I sift through all the drama...so please, everyone stay!!! Impart knowledge....talk about the game!!! Share your experiences!!! If someone says "bullshit, you didn't win that or do that" who cares.....as long as you are not trying to take advantage of someone else or sell some looney crap to everyone, I say let me hear about it. I always love a good trip report or story....and I even like the banter, sometimes, until it just breaks down to name calling. Everyone stay lucky, have fun, and win some damn $$$$$$$$$$$
     
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  12. Liman

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    problems arise when posters only come here once in a blue moon and post of fire bet wins, and 45 roll hands.
    we never read posts of bad trips from these same posters.
    And anyone who doesn't fully believe in DI is automatically attacked by a few posters who make it their mission to insult and threaten anyone on a craps board who disagrees with them.
    There is little intelligent discussion, its name calling and insults.
    Its difficult to have any faith in those posters honesty if they spend most of their time insulting or cursing at other posters who don't see eye to eye with them.

    Ive posted all my wins and losses.not that this stuff is about me, just using it as an example.
    Im lucky lately, been winning everywhere.
    In Michigan city, lst month I took a 900 dollar hit.
    but I made no more a big deal out of my wins then I did out of my losses, because losses always happen.its part of the gambling experience.
    if one wants or expects anyone to believe they win every time or 95% of the time, it becomes a little far fetched.
     
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  13. tabletop123, Aug 22, 2015

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    I agree, Liman. Craps is a VERY hard game to CONSISTENTLY win at. Dice Influencing ALONE aint gonna do it. Don't care how friggin good that you think you shoot, or How Perfectly you keep the Dice Glued Together during Mid-air Flight. Now, I practice my Toss/s Religiously. With the "HOPE" that synchronized Tossing gives me an Edge. I win some, & I lose some. HOWEVER, Lately I've been implementing Linaway's Stuff into my Game, & there's NOTHING better(With the exception of Winning) that gives you an exact Understanding of how the Dice are performing. Forget the shooter. What are the Dice Telling You? Yes, every roll is independent. No, you cannot predict future Rolls, based on Past events. BUT........ You WILL know if your outcomes are in a safe, or Perilous Dice array. As Linaway Says: "Where's the Friggin Sevens!!!!

    As much as I practice my toss, I can Truthfully say that Reading Dice outcomes has out Performed Dice Influencing Hands Down. Why? Because you're letting the Dice do what They Naturally do, & that is to Remain "Off axis". It's NOT about attempting to TOSS "Off Axis". The dice already does THAT for you. No need to re-invent the wheel. You just simply interpret the Results based on the Outcome. "Safe", or Unsafe". So, Why would I continue to Practice Tossing the Dice Beautifully Glued together mid Air? Because it's an addiction. Gives one a Sense of control, & empowerment. Sometimes it works, sometimes Not!!

    Now, reading the Outcomes of the Dice Rolls is always accurate. What you see as the End Result will NEVER deceive you, or give a False sense of Hope. No pinching the Dice. No relaxed breathing Prior to the Dice Release. No need to hit a specific Target, while keeping your Dice "Married" Mid Air. Simply Evaluate the End Result of the toss & Bet accordingly. There are No Magic Bullets, but Knowing Which arrays the dice are landing in certainly helps your wagering decisions.

    The Best analogy I can give is this: If a Robber had you backed into a corner with an open window at your Ready(Assuming the friggin window was not Two or three stories High) would you Remain & try to fight the intruder, or would you simply flee? These are the kinds of decisions that you make each & every roll of the dice based upon what you are seeing. STAY, Or FLEE!! Press your Bets, regress, or Take them down. Continued Success!!
     
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  14. $nakeEye$, Aug 22, 2015

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    Harley -

    YOU are CORRECT again -

    I, [Admin Edit: Personal Name Removed] am nothing BUT a total fucking sleaze bag who hides behind MY computer and calls people names -

    MOST often what I have to say is total Bull Shit -

    I have NO friends except SuperRick - who continually has to intercept the flack that comes my way because of the false truths that I spread !

    [Admin Edit: Personal Photo Removed]

    " I " challenge ALL of YOU -

    IF YOU see ME -

    Either Kick MY ASS - BEFORE I kick YOURS -

    OR -

    Just BAN me from ALL CASINOS !

    I play the Las Vegas circuit along with other venues -

    Harley - YOU " BE THE MAN " !!!!!!!!!!!!!! :eek:

    YOU could NOT leave " WELL ENOUGH , ALONE " -

    NO -

    YOU had to get the " LAST WORD " in -

    Well -

    YOU GOT WHAT YOU wished for -

    And MORE than YOU bargained for !

    Ciao' , A$$HOLE !

    - 30 -

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  15. tabletop123, Aug 23, 2015

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    Would be nice if you Guys would Cease & desist. NOW, things are getting a little too Personal. Posting People's Pictures & Personal information on a Craps forum...... JUST AINT COOL!!! There's a certain point called "The Point of no return".
     
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    Well this isn't how I wanted to spend my Sunday morning. Not cool guys. The profanity and insults are one thing that I can tolerate, but impersonating other members by publishing their personal info is a line that should not be crossed on this forum.
     
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  17. SevenOut, Aug 23, 2015

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    Jacob, well said and I support your decision.

    There is no excuse for some posters to resort to the tactics used over that last few years, and today, to criticize their "critics" or "supporters". Myself, I quit the Forum because of a small group making threats against others. This is suppose to be a "Teaching Forum" not promoting businesses and underhanded threats.

    If a poster cannot argue points with facts, making up facts is even worse.
     
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  18. KokomoJoe4, Aug 23, 2015

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    Gentlemen,

    Craps is an adventurous game that we all enjoy playing, and we all play quite differently.

    What the fuck is up with this childish, mine is bigger than yours bullshit?

    Argument and disagreement is one thing that can actually be good and humorous. Let's keep it at that.
     
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  19. Harley, Aug 23, 2015

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    AMEN !! ........ let's talk about CRAPS !!
     
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  20. Onautopilot, Aug 23, 2015

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    Some people have character, some people are characters.....I think a little mix of both isn't all that bad, as long as it's the character that defines the person. Intelligent verbal sparing can be a lot of fun, and sometimes even enlightening, verbal abuse, and name calling can also be enlightening....an insight into the person employing that tactic.

    The only thing wrong with my above observation, is that the people with character, didn't need me to mention it. The people without character, could care less about it....a reality that is not likely to change any time soon.
     
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