To nip this nonsense in the buttocks....

Discussion in 'Dice Influencing' started by NokTang, May 26, 2018.

  1. Ninetyfouracross, Jun 13, 2018

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    I think what's happening here is one has to see it in person on a live table in order for them to even have a remote change of mind, as I have witnessed it on my last trip after watching another shooter mimick the way I tossed after my long roll. It was actually really funny, but he rolled a good 20 minutes, mind you prior to that he couldn't get pass 6 rolls. Was it because he changed his grip, his toss, his demeanor, his belief? I think so, due to the fact there was some sort of impact and change to his toss. But others would say otherwise. It's up to you where you stand.

    By the way very interesting with the darts game.

    Not as complicated as you think, theres times when I was only betting on 6 and 8 using 3v
     
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  2. Ninetyfouracross, Jun 13, 2018

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    To the non believers there is only one belief to a winning outcome, it was by luck and chance whether it be a chunker or a sharpshooter. This is where you fit in TD. Which I get confused because on previous posts you have stated on bubble, you yourself influence the dice by reading faces up before pressing the button. Similiarites don't you think?

    To the DI's it was skills obtained by hours of practice and dedication. Now the question is how to prove and disprove the other, that's where the dispute happens.

    But yes your test would be one to try and accomplish if it was a fair one.
     
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  3. TDVegas, Jun 13, 2018

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    Well, right...you might have to show why it wasn't. If you want to go with "winning outcome".....therefore DI----that's entirely your prerogative. I think those on the critical side have a higher threshold for believability.
    I've tried different things. I have no evidence I'm influencing a wanted result. If I did have evidence and was in fact doing this....trust me, not only would I go under the radar, you would no longer see me posting here or talking about it. My time would be in the various casinos around town....doing, not talking. Yes sir...that's my story and I'm sticking to it. ;)

    I would still keep in contact with many of the posters...but I would likely spend an inordinate amount of time playing...and winning. I like money. More the better.
     
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  4. Ninetyfouracross, Jun 13, 2018

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    Most of the time to me its just avoiding the 7. Too much expectations when it comes down to it, which would make somebody completely not believe in it, for they will always be searching for evidence.
     
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  5. NokTang, Jun 13, 2018

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    Hopping around the internet posting to enhance at least interest and more likely, sale of lessons and instruction, is the motive. Otherwise, as you say, those with said "skill" would have long ago moved to Las Vegas and bounced around town day after day, winning $5000 here, then there, the back "here" a few weeks later.

    I remain of the firm opinion if you can't drop dice 3 inches straight down, set or otherwise, and get desired results, how can you possibly throw them down a table and achieve some desired result on a consistent basis?

    and...

    A person should be able to make sevens, with this skill, far easier than the other numbers so why not toss with money on the don't pass?

    Nok the Kook
     
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  6. twodicebilly, Jun 14, 2018

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    Respectfully I don't understand your point at all.....

    I don't see anyone pushing dice influence or even control down anyones throat, if they
    or I think something that what a player may do helps, why in the hell cant they talk about it
    here or anywhere else....even promote it if they feel that strongly about it.

    Several other guys get on here stuff their bs down other throats , particularly one guy
    that has a point of view that he gladly reminds everyone of and it is a point of view I don't
    agree with at all.

    As I told you on the phone... a neutral player does not always stand on only one side of the
    fence.

    twodicebilly
     
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  7. eagleeye2, Jun 14, 2018

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    NokTang,

    Your post is irrational, Casino's Do Not Like to LOOSE $$$.

    Do or Don't, Casino's will seek out & pressure those that WIN Consistently Playing Do or Don't @ CRAPS!

    eagleeye2
     
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  8. von duck, Jun 14, 2018

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    There is no difference between those looking for "suckers" to purchase gambling systems, and casinos looking for suckers to play their games. Who are you, the dice police? If somebody can't see through the bullshit, then there's nothing you can do to help them. If a guy needs to think he can influence the dice, so what, that's how he has "fun". How many people make their living selling, things or ideas, that are totally bogus? Quite a few. :cool:
     
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  9. NokTang, Jun 14, 2018

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    I am in fact involved in scam alerts and prosecution when it evolves to human trafficking(which encompasses more than you might know). I care about others especially the naive and unknowing. I won't bore you but suffice to say more alerts are better than less. You never know who might have missed the other alerts to said scam. There was even a headline today! about Nigerian email scams still working on folks. Can you imagine that?
     
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  10. von duck, Jun 14, 2018

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    The "scams" go much deeper than just the obvious stuff. Just for instance, the "gold clad" buffalo nickel, which they sell for $10 and as a "gold investment". The GD thing has 14 milligrams of gold. That's 2000 coins to get 1 av. Ounce of gold, which is less than a Troy oz. So, over $20,000 per oz. if you could scape it off. "A SCAM" on TV all the time. And there are about a zillion more. :cool: I'll bet TD has bought a dozen of them.
     
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  12. tabletop123, Jun 14, 2018

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    Discuss Craps, betting systems, grips, Dice Sets, whatever. Makes no difference to me. However, don't expect me NOT to respond if/when my name is brought into the equation ( As Ninetyfour did).

    The bottom line is.....Are you winning/losing, & HOW MUCH!!!

    THAT is how I KEEP SCORE!!!
    This forum allows freedom of speech, regardless of what people may feel. So, Discuss any, everything to your Heart's content.

    When all subjects are discussed , & exhausted......GO DO!!! $$$$$$$
     
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  13. James Hall, Jun 14, 2018

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    Yep I firmly believe this
    This is the same mentality held by a working man
    who inherits $100,000 , he immediately quits his job and begins
    going into the bank everyday to draw out $20,000
    and to his surprise on the 6th day the manager stops him at the door
    and gives him the bad news
     
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  14. James Hall, Jun 14, 2018

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    That being the case you are wasting your time , Why don't you go to Nigeria , become a teacher and teach those folks the
    error of their ways , or perhaps arrest those offering those scams
    Your time would be better spent
     
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  15. TDVegas, Jun 14, 2018

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    I do find it rather pathetic of you to demean the working man in this manner, especially when the ONLY guy who has met you, vouched for you and had good things to say about you....is/was a working man for his entire life. That would be Rick, aka Superrick.

    He worked in the elevator business and got his hands dirty by fixing elevators. I respect that. You have no respect for the "working man". Isn't the first time you have shown contempt and ridicule (they can't add 5x20k?) for people who work for a living.

    Insulting at best....and at worst a disgusting referral to a guy and profession who has been your one backer here. A working man.
     
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  16. tabletop123, Jun 14, 2018

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    Now, I wouldn't necessarily quit my job, but........if I unequivocally KNEW/was CERTAIN that I COULD influence the dice to a degree that it would be Life Altering, and/or it provides me with a MINIMUM of what I earned on the job....I would SERIOUSLY consider making the "Job" secondary.
    I mean.....why work full time if you don't have to? The only reason would be if I TOTALLY enjoyed the job,,& it gave me the freedom to STILL ply my trade over the Crap Tables!
    Two incomes paying the same pay with the Dice Influencing POSSIBLY exceeding the income of the day job?......SWEET!!!!
     
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  17. James Hall, Jun 14, 2018

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    It is amazing how desperate you have become over these
    past two years and how transparent your desperation has become
    There was no insult in that post , you try every way you can
    to cook heat into posts of those who represent a threat to your
    distorted , irrelevant and inferior view of the game , craps

    You cook up an insult to Superrick , His name was never mentioned
    by me , you are the only one who brought his name into this conversation in your sleazy attempt to create distention
    Here is how desperate you have become , claiming that I mentioned
    Rick in that post

    I MADE NO REFERENCE TO RICK in my post
    Your statement was untrue and totally pathetic and you should be totally ashamed of that untrue attempt at deception

    The longer this goes the more irrelevant you become because
    every post from you is negative and derogatory


    As far as Rick is concerned , he is a great guy and a true gentleman
    I have the greatest respect for him
    You guys lost a great source of information regarding craps
    when you lost him and his many years of valuable experience
    Of course we know how relieved , "YOU" are , his FACTS flew
    in the face of your half backed opinions and superstitious
    FALDERAL

    If you are not embarrassed for that post of yours , you should be
    It was totally untrue and NOT WORTHY of even you.
    You should apologize to Rick for this unwarranted attack

    BESIDES , what makes you think I have never worked?
    How do you know I don't have a job now?
     
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  18. James Hall, Jun 14, 2018

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    You need to watch what you say about working
    TDVegas reads these posts and he will say you
    are insulting Rick and people who work for a living
    TDV is a little sensitive about such things because he has to work
     
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  19. TDVegas, Jun 14, 2018

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    You are the one demeaning the working man....not me.

    I have great respect for “the working man”...

    You brought the word into the conversation to demean those considered working men.

    You owe him an apology. I have great respect for the work he did as a working man.
     
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  20. Ninetyfouracross, Jun 14, 2018

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    Nigeria are known for scams, I have a co worker who got scammed for 2000 dollars. As in exchange for jewelry due to the fact the so called prince told him US dollars were needed only to trade with diamonds. Come to find out all the jewelry that was sent to him was all fake, appraisal store here that he was taking it to even shit down afterwards.
     
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