To: Jacob , A Personal " Thank You " Note

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  1. $nakeEye$, Nov 8, 2017

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    First, I want to state that according to my emphatic announcement that I would NEVER AGAIN post on this forum -

    I make this FINAL statement - AGAIN !!!!!!!

    As I frequently monitor the postings on this forum I am much chagrined as to the direction that the attitude of this forum has taken in the past year or so !

    Prior to eliciting my unwanted contribution as to my reasons for the above statement I would like to take a moment to send you a Personal " Thank You " !

    Had it NOT been for the existence of THIS forum I would NOT have had the MOST FORTUNATE opportunity to meet and shoot with the likes of Proficient Dice Shooters / Influencers such as :

    Dicenator, LeftyAJ, BigBen, Amato, Karpatylvuv, LuckyLady, Wizard, SixShooter, Obie1 , rcsshankar, AmishDude, 8x8x8, TonyBugs, GoLiquid, SoSerious, Wudged, ALFalcons, AmeriCraps, etc. -

    There are OTHERS whom I do NOT recall their handles at this moment - BUT - I will NOT forget their names and/or faces when and if I / we run across them in the trenches -

    There are Others who I have met BECAUSE OF the above connections -

    To mention a few - Heavy, Gargoil, Howard Rock'N'Roller, DiceCoach, SuperRick, Vegas Dice Controller, Koi, Selfer61, Psychic Lady and OTHERS whom I am at a momentary loss of recollection to recall their " NAMES " -

    Because of YOUR forum - I was able to put together a Team of proficient shooters while still in the NY/NJ Metro area !

    For ALL of the above - I COMMEND YOU !

    However, as of late - I - AND OTHERS - as mentioned above -

    Are - to say the least - More Than Disappointed in the direction that you allow Your Forum to take -

    There has been NO discernible talk of Craps recently -

    The talk has Mostly been CRAP / aka SH*T !

    NOTHING at all to do with the casino game -

    ONLY constant nit-picking / bickering / abusive language and total Bull Sh*t among your forum members !

    Last week I told Heavy to remove ALL my posts from HIS FORUM due to HIS allowance of a certain Irish Person to overtake certain posts -

    Perhaps it is TIME that YOU - as an Administrator - put a lid on this constant nonsense and divert the flow of input to the topic of YOUR FORUM !

    The " Focus " should be " Casino Craps " - NOT - " CRAP " !

    It is unfortunate that you allowed this forum to go down the toilet -

    I hope that you " Put Your Foot Down " and put an end to this foolish nonsense / bickering / in-fighting / Bull Shit which prevails on YOUR FORUM !

    Wishing you nothing but the " Best " !

    Sincerely,

    $nakeEye$
     
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  2. basicstrategy777, Nov 8, 2017

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  3. Onautopilot, Nov 8, 2017

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    And again, and again, and again.
     
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  4. HornHighBLEVE, Nov 8, 2017

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    Alrighty then, let's see how the next craps topic unfolds and welcome back.
     
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  5. KokomoJoe4, Nov 8, 2017

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    Snake,

    While I disagree with many of your influence related thoughts on the game, it is obvious to me that you are a guy with a hell of a lot of experience at the game.

    I think it is a good thing that the internet allows people with similar interests to bullshit about these things in as much detail as they care to.

    Yes, there is way too much petty back and forth bullshit that often gets too personal on this site.

    Some of us have an ability to wade through this shit, either ignoring it or maybe posting some harmless humor about it.

    Doesn't seem like it, but if you are returning here, I'm curious as to how things are going since you've moved to LV. Hope all is well and that the craps gods have been good to you.
     
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  6. TDVegas, Nov 8, 2017

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    Best craps forum out there. Definitely the most active. Is it ALL craps?...of course not.

    It runs the gamut. Trip reports, strategy discussions, DI, random play, table play, bubble play, disagreements, debates, banter, ribbing, joking, off topic, etc.

    Everything that an open forum will be. If some are looking for a forum where only craps is discussed....well, those have died out. If they haven't...go there if this board does not meet your standards. I will admit that one member who is averaging some 50 posts a day and IS trolling the forum is getting the lions share of attention. Then again, this is a fellow DI player...or at least one who claims to be. 50x365 = 18,000 posts in 1 single year.

    Jacob has done a masterful job with this forum. Open, lively, easy to navigate...ignore feature, PM feature. It's very easy to focus on threads you like and ignore the ones you don't.

    The only ones who want to change it are those who want it run THEIR way.
     
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  7. TDVegas, Nov 8, 2017

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    My own experience with any kind of moderated forums has been that eventually the "talk"....the "opinions"...."the statements" eventually become reflective of what the moderator wants rather than free, open thinking and discussion with no restrictions.

    Now, of course there are limits...but it cannot be on content. To get full, open honesty from each person, you cannot have a situation where anyone is afraid to express themselves for fear of moderator intervention.

    Moderated forums do not work in the sense you don't get total freedom to express your ideas and as I noted, eventually the talk leans toward in agreement with the moderator.

    In the end, you don't get honest discussion...you get "fear of being banned" discussion.
     
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  8. KokomoJoe4, Nov 8, 2017

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    TDV,

    On a gambling forum? Surely you jest. LMAO.
     
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  9. TDVegas, Nov 8, 2017

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    LOL...you're right.
     
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  10. TDVegas, Nov 8, 2017

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    full, open "expression"...maybe works better;)
     
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  11. betwthelines, Nov 8, 2017

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    okay who's in for another over/under pool on the next again and again and again date of return of the $nake?

    now last time you recall it was determined by our impartial judges, empaneled specificaally for the ruling that his posting of a "like" counted as a "return to the forum" as stipliated in the compact and our winner declared a couple of weeks ago...

    ...this time however i propose that we explicitly include only an actual posting such as the OP here as counting toward a "return"...at a minimum we need to openly discuss and determine ahead of time as to whether such an appearance would count or not (it really did take us unawares, didn't it?) but as always we will put it to a vote.

    ...but what some of you did not know until now is that the sub-pool money will be returned equally to everyone who participated since there was 100% unanimity that he would return "before the first of the year" so everyone in that sub-pool simply like kissed their sister and got their money back.

    as before the entry amount is $1,000 for the main pool...subtending, extra pools, as before can also be proposed...depending obviously on the number of entries, you too could walk away with $31,000 like our last winner--or even more.

    pm me by 11:59PM PST, nov 15 if you wish to participate...we will then re-impanel our independent judges to determine the over/under date (i further propose we set a time so as to help break any ties)...of course any $nakeeye$ posts prior to that determination will be deemed a non-factor with negotiations thus either re-started or discontinued...pm me with any questions.

    also we once again have jacob's full cooperation to insure that $nakeeye$ does not sneak into the pool under an assumed name...indeed security measures including not only cybersecurity geniuses but consultations with hand-text writing and syntax experts are already taking place as well.

    good luck to all.

    tom p
     
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  12. Settingcanthurt, Nov 8, 2017

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    @$nakeEye$

    Noted. I'm not thrilled with a lot of the discussions here either, but to closely moderate and shape these discussions to the degree you desire would require at least a 10x time commitment from me. Likely significantly more. Perhaps the biggest reason this site still exists today, and what will continue to keep it going is that the workload required to keep it going is so minimal. Gonna let this site continue to run its course, adding tools to help separate the wheat from the chaff when I can. Hopefully it gets better, but I can't promise it will.
     
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  14. $nakeEye$, Nov 8, 2017

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    NOT ONLY in MY opinion - but - obviously in others who no longer post here -

    There seems to be TOO MUCH " CHAFF " and NOT ENOUGH " WHEAT " here -

    I can totally understand and appreciate your restricted commitment to time and resources dedicated to this forum -

    However, in My opinion - at minimal - a certain amount of intervention needs to be exercised to maintain the intended integrity of this forum -

    As to exactly WHAT extent - if any - control you desire to maintain is entirely up to you - as You are The Boss !

    I am only making these comments / statements / assessments / suggestions known to you because I respect and appreciate what you have done for quite some time now and I do not want to see what you have strived so hard to achieve come to naught !

    Discipline needs to be maintained and consequences paid for violating the rules of discipline !

    At present there is ZERO discipline and NO consequence being paid for infractions !

    I refuse to post openly on this forum due to the lack of aforesaid countermeasures -

    You have a good thing going here, Jacob - please have the fortitude to Not F*ck it up !

    $nakeEys$
     
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  15. $nakeEye$, Nov 8, 2017

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    As a " For Instance " -

    If you go back to the last 500 posts that were uploaded on your forum -

    Can you ascertain exactly how many contributed to the actual game of casino craps -

    Take it back to 1,000 posts and take a hard look at the content of the posts !

    You will see nothing short of dissension amongst the troops -

    Total chaos - animosity - verbal abuse - etc. -

    Is THIS what you intended when you formed this forum ?

    I think NOT - as well as you !

    You chastised / suspended me for naming a certain individual whom you eventually banned from your forum -

    I have NO qualms regards your decision in that matter -

    However, I DO object to your laize-faire attitude regards what is transpiring on your forum -

    Just expressing MY opinion !

    Regards ,

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  16. Settingcanthurt, Nov 8, 2017

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    Look
    as one here who abuses the intent of the forum ya just gotta ask where does it start and stop??

    All members have the ability to ignore members they choose. Aint that enough??

    Open forum is what it is. Craps discussion is the purpose and passion. I learn a lot from all of it. Constantly.
    Do I want to have control of some part of it?? NO. Can I ignore what does not interest me. Yes.
    To your point
    Craps technicals have lessened somewhat on the forum. Why? Not just one reason. But Jacob is not the answer. It's guys like OAP 777 BTL who have less purpose as a result of the lack of new curiosites of the game.
    The idea of setting the dice to potentially influence the outcomes is perfect. Make Hope.
    Balance it with knowledge, understanding, mathematics, probability's, variance, experience and absolute bullshit it is a damn fun time.

    I thank everyone here who post their minds. Everyone.
    Potentially it all contributes. Filter on your own what you want but please do not expect the only one here who can, to make decisions you may not like. We all decide what we like. filter your own. BTW stick around. You also add value.
     
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  17. $nakeEye$, Nov 8, 2017

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    Unfortunately, NO - I am NOT returning here -

    There is TOO MUCH " Drama / Bull Shit " which is prevalent on this forum -

    When I first joined it was a site which one could actually learn something about the game of craps -

    Unfortunately, due to certain posters that opportunity is like the dinosaurs - extinct -

    Opportunity knocks and the majority on this forum shut the door in its' face -

    That is their misfortune - NOT mine -

    This forum does not know - has NO friggin' clue - as to what talent they let slip thru their greasy fingers due to their non-belief !

    I am DONE -

    I have said MY piece -

    Piss on SuperRick, James Hall, and $nakeEye$ all you want -

    Listen to the likes of TDVegas and his moronic followers - THEY will lead you down the path of idiocy - HE who KNOWS Nothing - professes to be a " Professional Bubble Craps Expert " - give me a friggin' break !

    I have NO use for the " DRAMA " which pervades this forum !

    $...eE..$
     
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  18. Settingcanthurt, Nov 9, 2017

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    Can I buy you a beer??
     
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  19. $nakeEye$, Nov 9, 2017

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    Craps discussion is / was THE INTENT of THIS Forum -

    Unfortunately, it has degenerated to a pissing match between certain members -

    I am unglued to this forum due to the fact that it has digressed into a mud slinging fest that would make the United Nations Assembly look like a tea party !

    Stick around - for WHAT ? -

    I added value - however - those days are LONG gone !

    Refer to sentence #2 above as to WHY !

    $...eE..$
     
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  20. $nakeEye$, Nov 9, 2017

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    Why don't you buy Jacob a 6 pack / 12 pack / 30 pack -

    HE is THE ONE who deserves it !

    For tolerating the likes of ALL of US !

    $...eE..$
     
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