There's NO WAY..NO WAY he builds that wall...gets money for that wall..NO WAY

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  1. basicstrategy777, Aug 8, 2019

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    Well, let's crunch some more numbers. Let's give them the benefit of the doubt, and call it 700 in two weeks. So that comes to 350 per week. Our goal is 20 million, so at 350 per week, that comes to about 60, 000 weeks, so we should have them all rounded up, in about 1200 years. :confused: Are you even beginning to see the futility, of this whole thing?
    Now they have to schedule 700 hearings, and out of those, how many deportations? 10 at the most I'd say. They will never accomplish anything going about it, like this, it's too complicated. Many of those arrested, will be the parents of US citizens, which makes it really complicated. This approach, though it will be real popular with you and other "dumbasses" simply will not work. Say they deport a guy, how long do you think it will take him to get back? Only a complete moron ( like yourself) would think this will in any way be effective. Face it, your an idiot, not that there's anything wrong with that. :cool:
     
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    It's a start...there will be more raids.....there will be more upheaval in the illegal community.....there will be more criminals in jail or deported......this is just the beginning........a warning shot across the bow..........Immigration and Customs Enforcement. will continue to knock down doors, round up people that are in the country illegally, and catch criminals.........it's a nice feeling that law enforcement is doing something to protect the American way.........YOU on the other hand want to say it is hopeless and a waste of time.......I don't want you in my foxhole...........I want a fighter, not a giver-upper......you are a phony, cherry picking American.....ugly stuff.

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    Believe me, I wouldn't want to be in your fox hole, with your fat farting ass. This whole thing is a charade, to make stupid people (like you), think that somebody is doing something. We do not, possess the infrastructure, to curb illegal immigration, this way, and our laws make it too cumbersome to do so. It has to be done in a more subtle way, by creating laws that would make it difficult or impossible, to function here, as an illegal. With the current congress, nothing substantial will be done. To address the problem in this manner, IS hopeless, you just can't see it, or won't face it. Get REAL man!
    Since you like to play the "card" when you think it's convenient, let me just ask you a very pointed question, "what would Jesus have you do", about this situation? Yeah, not such an easy answer for you, is it? It's a package deal man, all, or none, so what's going to be? :cool:
     
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    When values are clear...decisions are easy.

    Jesus would do the right thing......which is stick it way up your ass.

    What is being done is partially being done to stick it way up the liberals ass....they must HATE the fact that the Orange man is winning all the time and manufacturing creative solutions to problems.....they hate solutions...they want to keep people dependent on gov't and not be successful on their own and rise from poverty....in this way they get their vote.....keep them down, keep them down i.e.socialism....all you fuckers want is power.....you have no shame, no integrity....you will go down because freedom and love will win, over your party of hate and death.....you are the " no solutions party"......all you do is divide, tear down, and call people racists; that's all you got.....did you hear how you dems reacted to these mass shootings......that was sickening.......talk about the country being doomed if you win in 2020.

    Sure this immigration thing is a big problem supported by big money; that's why the problem has been around so long........Jesus would say..." fuck the money...we do the right thing and be as compassionate as we can doing it"...........if people are pure, and they work together for the common good, there is nothing we can't accomplish.......and look at us....the sess pool we have created.......no wonder HE put on a flood for 40 days and 40 nites......looking down HE must just shake HIS head.....HE has given us so, so much...all the tools for success....and look at what our dicks, thirst for power and money has done to us......we are weak and greedy.......we deserve a big kick in the ass..........it will be intersting how it all turns out.....an even money bet.

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    What Trump is fighting is Trump...not the people that appose him...he beat
    those people last time...….this time he is not only fighting those people, but
    what others that voted for him last time think of him.....

    Generally the American people in most parts of the country are pretty nice people,
    Trump is not like them....Trump is just like Obama, both more filled with thier
    importance than what they really think about you and I

    Obama hated our European traits......a strong worth ethic, desire to be free and
    make our own decisions, Trump is much more concerned with his image than he is
    anything else and he will use anything else to protect that.....I happen to support his
    policies so I support him...….but their is no question in my mind that protecting his image
    means a lot more to him than my family, and my family has a long history of fighting
    for the country.

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    TDB.....opinions are like assholes....everybody got one.

    Here's what I think....Trump is not fighting Trump....Trump loves Trump...who he is fighting are democrats, republicans, the media, big business, et al. .He does what he wants, he says what he wants, and he don't care what YOU think....he don't care......he's not fighting anybody, he's just doing his thing i.e. what he thinks is right......he is using a facility that is rarely used now -a-days ...COMMON-FUCKING-SENSE......remember that one......it's what the deplorables use.........you think he is fighting the people that voted for him last time......you mean his rallies are a mere shell of what they've been in the past.....lot of empty seats...no enthusiasm....the people that voted for him before are no longer with him.....is that what you think.......nice read............it's smart people like you that want his fruit but can't stand him.....you want his tax cut...you want his strong military...you want to close the border...you want his judges....you want the country feared and respected....you want peace...........but you don't LIKE HIM.......I could care less about anything you said in your post...and people that think like you should see the folly of your thinking.....you're smart..right ?....it's folly because you take your eye off the ball.......and the ball is AMERICA.............that's what I see......it is simple to me.........you want to save the country and maybe the world, you vote Trump.........so what do you choose ?.......Fuck his orange hair TDB, let him grab all the pussy he wants....One reason I love Trump is because he'll say "fuck you".....to you and the Pope.....don't matter......isn't that refreshing.....wouldn't you like to be like that.......to be so confident in right and wrong and able to say what you think............Yeah, right, he is real concerned about his image.......he'll call a black man out...he'll call a white man out...he'll call out anybody....it don't matter TDB......beautiful.....thing is, you and your elitist friends will gather together and snicker and laugh and shake your heads..........that is what's known as being 2 faced.......YOU think you know what America thinks.....YOU have him all figured out.............Your problem is he doesn't fit in your box.....he does not say the things you think he should say.......he does not act the part......he does not fit the TDB mold..,hence, he is not ....he is not.......oh I don know....PRESIDENTIAL !!!

    Thing is TDB....I believe you mis-read the average Joe....they don't think like you.....you and your pals are not the average Joe.......YOUU have it all figured out......it's his IMAGE.....that';s why he is giving his salary...his life of no problems....his family.......to his country......just like you would do I'm sure......IMAGE.........he is a soldier TDB, fighting for his country....we should all be soldiers and fight for our country.....today, we are no longer civilians.

    TDB,to be kind, you are a fucking dumb-bell........think about it somemore...........think about what is at stake here...........if you really understood the stakes, you would not be worried about such minor , minor things about the man leading us with the sword and the shield......instead of dicking around with such triivial matters....why don't you put your shoulder to the wheel and back your president up as much as you can muster ; he needs all the help he can get.....and go tell your elitist buddies to fuck off and have a martini..........no offense, but I never really liked you from the beginning and I don't like you now..........


    "Be careful not to practice your righteousness in front of others to be seen by them. If you do, you will have no reward from your Father in heaven."

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    By "compassionate" do you mean that you would only use approved methods to kill them? :confused: It's just not possible, to make much, if any difference, using immigration raids. It actually creates more problems than it solves. Those people have a communication system, that informs them of what to do in case of this or that, to make it as cumbersome as possible for I.C.E. :cool: do you think all of those unaccompanied children are an accident? :confused: They are part of a scheme to tie-up resources, and attain public sympathy.
    These latest raids were just for show, and I.C.E. may have been summoned by the employer of these people, in order to "stiff" them out of their final paychecks. :cool:
    Ask I.C.E. to give you a list of the names of those who have been "deported". Then ask, what method was used to transport them out of the country. Then ask what became of their families, and their belongings? Then ask what becomes of their children, who are U.S. Citizens? It is a very tangled web, and you are a MORON, if you think that this will do anything to stop illegal's.
    Nothing meaningful will be done, because trump himself, is in cahoots with some of biggest employers of these people.
    You think the problem can be ignored for 60 years, and then trump is going to come and save the day? :confused: Get real man!
    These people are so embedded in the construction industry, that the projects would shut-down, without them. When the projects stop, so does the need for all of the suppliers, concrete, wood, gipsum, glass, insulation, flooring, plumbing, H-VAC, electrical, steel, coatings, asphalt, appliances, utility connections, inspection fees, fire protection, security and locks, doors and window frames, etc. etc,
     
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  10. basicstrategy777, Aug 11, 2019

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    You are correct duck...these raids are a pimple on an elephants ass....BUT they have a purpose...that is to demonstrate the Orange Man means business and the word will get out among the illegals.....this might slow things down a llittle....the problem is beyond huge, but it cannot be ignored....you have to start someplace.....to abandon the problem and throw up your hands because of it enormity is not the right thing to do.....if ALL are determined to move this thing around and reverse the trend we can do it......the cost to the American taxpayer is very, very, very large to support all these people......it's BIG.....we must try to get our arms around this issue and make it workable.......it will not be done by one man but he is giving it a hell of a try, using all the tools he got and trying to hold off the enemies......what's wrong with trying to fix something that is bad for the country ?..............we need the wall, we need good laws, we need an overall plan, we need enforcement, we need commitment.........Trump is trying to get the show on the road but he is getting alot of headwinds.....but he is not giving up and coming up with creative solutions......that friggin all-mightly dollar always gets in the way.........however, the word is getting out....these people are encountering much more resistence in their own country and mexico....the numbers, although still very high, are dropping significantly....from 120,000 in May to 82,000 in July..

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    That's about a 33% drop. Do you think it was the extra 2300 ft of hiking that made this drop possible? :)
     
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    You just can't give the man credit, can you duck.....

    He continues to find a way.......he will continue to punish you till you say ..." NO MAS "........

    SOME of the reasons for the drop are as follows::

    A federal appeals court has handed the Trump administration a victory over the controversial asylum process and an immigration attorney says the ruling could slow the flow of illegal aliens.

    The notoriously left-wing 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals ruled May 7 that the United States can require asylum seekers to wait in Mexico for a court hearing, a decision that overturned a San Francisco judge that said they could remain in the U.S.

    Responding to the "caravans" of illegals from Central America, President Trump and his administration introduced the “Migrant Protection Protocols” policy in January in an effort to curb abuse of the asylum process. But a federal judge ruled in early April that the policy endangered migrants in crime-ridden Mexico, The Associated Press reported.

    and this, duck :



    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...-with-guatemala-to-limit-asylum-claims-in-u-s


    and this, duck:





    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trade-mexico-immigration-idUSKCN1TP2YN

    and this, duck:





    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-court-immigration-idUSKCN1R01TF


    and this, duck:




    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/house-approves-spending-bill-with-5b-for-border-wall


    but wait....there's more.........but you'll have to look it up.....


    bend over you skinny fuck.....he ain't thru with you yet.

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    So you think that illegals read up on all the new laws before they come? :confused: We've got it down to 80,000, a month, plus we're deporting about a dozen more a month. So, only 79,988 a month now. :cool: Great! :).
    He's not drilling me, I want the border secured, I just don't think it's happening. Without the ability to make it a military mandate, I do not think the border can be secured. What little border security there is now, will soon be defunded. :cool:
     
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    YOU can say what you want...…...here in Wisconsin a Rep will never win
    Milwaukee or Madison, or Stevens Point or Eau Claire.... so Trump won
    by winning our area and other areas like it.... farm areas.... I will tell you
    the attitude has changed a lot here....the best governor we ever had lost.
    no one believed that possible...… lost here!!!!!! Trump is not nearly as
    well liked as our governor was......

    777 remember, no dem that did not vote for Trump last time, will
    ever do it now.......thousands of farmers and small business guys
    and retired folks across the country....are just your average joe....you may think
    they are more like you , but you only think that....most are truly just nice people
    that would hope their leaders are a reflection of themselves....

    NOw i never said they would ever vote for a dem.....but it would not take many to
    just stay home in 4 states.

    I say Trump could accomplish the exact same things he has while making an
    effort to maker fewer enemies...you say he has accomplished what he has by
    making those eneimies......

    Your willing to bet an awful thinking the average American sees themselves like
    Trump......!!!!!

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    TDB....your response was civil and thoughtful........I guess I should not be surprized......mine was thoughtful....

    Do you really think people want a country like the dems propose........those that think about staying home better not stay home.......they should forget Trump ( the messenger) they should think their vote is a vote for America..................."The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.".............Those that will vote for Trump are: his hard core followers....blacks/latinos/asians......more women than you think......independents that have half a brain.....dems that know how rotten their platform is............you better hope and work for him to get in or YOU are sunk......and you know it..

    You need to understand something.....Trump is Trump....he won the presidency HIS way.......it is good to have enemies...this means you stood for something..........you want him to change........why ?....so more people will like him....you want him to be a chemellion like the rest of these phony balony.....why can't he be himself......why can't he be Trump......because you won't like him if he is.....he says "fuck you".....what you see is what you get....take it or leave it.........why must we all conform to society's box of normal.........some people ( 62 million ) like him just the way he is........and there are probably more.......What are the Vegas odds he wins ?.......I give him 5 to 1........I want...this country needs a FIGHTER......I truly don't want nicey-nicey.........we are not in that type of climate.......I want a smiling assassin that is generous to a fault and will rip your lungs out thru your ass.......we need him TDB...we need him real bad.

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    I agree.Trump is Trump.....that is a double edge sword.

    I give Trump 1 chance in three to win the election..... 50% of america
    hates him...….we have lost 600 farms in Wisconsin the last 1.5 years....
    China, Iran, Russia, North Korea, wont lift a finger to come to any agreement
    with only a little over a year before the next election.
    the idea that Trump is a racist has stuck....I dont agree, but it has stuck....

    Now I dont like this anymore than you do....if the dems win...this country is
    gone......But that is not up to you and me. that is up to the way Trump
    conducts himself....

    TDB
     
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    It's Trumps fault..........It's Trumps fault !!.......what are you going to say if he wins in a landslide ?..........." I guess the polls were wrong".........what you are going to do, is continue to be a weasel.....you will join the losers chorus and continue to bad mouth him and love what he does.......
    ...You biggest problem is God........He sent him to ascend to the presidency against all odds and will not release him till his work is done.......you are fighting God.

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    You really think that Blacks/ latinos/ and Asians, are trumps hard core followers? :confused: :D You would have to be joking. I'm not sure about Asians, but I know damned well he won't get more than 5% of the black and latino vote. :cool:
    I don't see anybody running for the democratic ticket, that's worth a shit so it might be possible for him win again, might depend on how things go economically over next 16 months.
    Hopefully he didn't leave his fingerprints or something, in Epstein's cell. :)
     
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    With Jim Brown...Mike Tyson....and Mohamed Ali for Trump....the black vote will put him over the top.....the racist.

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    You would have to be a complete idiot, to believe that. :confused: Oh, and by the way, ALI has been dead, since before trump was elected. :cool: What a complete moron you are. :D
     
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