The Yuri Grip

Discussion in 'Dice Influencing' started by Dave G Ct, May 16, 2017.

  1. DeMango, Aug 24, 2017

    DeMango

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    Can't fix stupid. Bonetracker is an Excel spreadsheet. Bill Gates made a good one. Anyone can make one? How dumb can you be and still breathe?
     
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  2. von duck, Aug 24, 2017

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    Bill Gates is a DI? I did not know that.
     
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  3. von duck, Aug 24, 2017

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    THIS is actually, a pretty good question, and one these guys just might, give us the answer to.:D.
     
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  4. Dave G Ct, Aug 24, 2017

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    Like I said " I don't need it" or do I need chi or any other crutch DI ers cling to. DeMango just play , shoot, win, and report back what worked or did not work.You do not have to write another Gone with the Wind.
     
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  5. DeMango, Aug 24, 2017

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    Well Dave, here is the real point. If you chart your rolls and input into your computer, it will tell you the optimum set to use. This depends on the consistency of your rolls. If you have the talent to be consistent, and most don't, you can get an edge. You don't know your best set. This is probably costing you money!
     
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  6. von duck, Aug 24, 2017

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    Why change your set, why not just move your money to what you are rolling? :cool:.
     
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  7. Dave G Ct, Aug 24, 2017

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    . I think sets can be over rated.Playing inside the 3- V gives me a lot of inside hits.Now one time I may get a run of 9' s or a run of 6 or 8' s. It changes from session to session but I can usually count on them showing.
    ..Now if I am betting the 4&10 the 2- V at times will generate hits but sometimes they don't.You may have been better off using say the 3- V. You never know.
    ...So one can get overly concerned with sets and lose focus on obtaining a fluid shot. No easy way.
     
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  8. DeMango, Aug 24, 2017

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    For someone knowing nothing better than a horse, it's pretty hard explaining a Tesla
     
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  9. tabletop123, Aug 24, 2017

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    Personally, I don't care about Dice Sets. Sure, I'm gonna use one, & stick with it. However, my primary concern is to have a good idea as to when to bet, how much to bet, & when to take it all down.

    I have NOT found anything better than Linaway's stuff. Bonetracker is a very good tool, but you can only use it after the facts. Nothing is absolute when playing the game of craps. Not Dice Influencing, Bonetracker, or Linaway's material, but "Real time" information is the best way to approach the game.

    Now, if we we're allowed the usage of computers at the tables, Bonetracker would be a Great tool.
    The problem with Bonetracker, & Linaway's material is that IF ya don't have a consistent toss ( it doesn't have to be perfect), neither one will help you.

    They both only work ( or should I say: "Work best") with consistent toss mechanics.
     
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  10. Dave G Ct, Aug 25, 2017

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    . Fine record your rolls and find out your optimum set.However this exercise should not be an on going parade of getting different roll results and never deciding on that one specific dice set.If that's the case you are just staying in one place spinning your wheels.
    Not a recipe for success.We will see.
     
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  11. Linaway, Aug 25, 2017

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    TT,

    This is not a put down on your post or a correction. It's like I've been telling you for some time, you're placing the credence of my material as reflecting on the total picture. The All In One disk provides a solid foundation for dice properties. It does not give you the whole picture. What you don't have is the material contained in my Dice Rules disk. Hence the rest of the story. That is unless some well meaning individual has given you a copy of that disk?

    True, consistency can lend to extending a hand, but there are a number of things about the same kind of outcomes you may not know about. Without this knowledge, a totally non-consistent hand will appear to give the shooter similar results outcome wise as a consistent toss will. By probability and in most instances reality is absolutely off axis. If you had experienced a Shooters Profile you would have become aware of pecking orders. The dice, table and shooter dynamics and even math is screwed up at outcome. No matter if your consistent or not. Now compound the issue with bad dice. Consistency goes south as far as results are concerned.The consistency is trash and quick 7-outs!

    Remember the illustration I put up on the dice practice forum showing where in a stick of red, I found a heavy 6,5 and 4. Yet I kicked ass in this scenario because of one simple reason. The right dice sets to deal with the circumstances.

    Then dice sets. They actually have polarity. Mechanics creates this phenomenon and hard coded die face labels. I will further state there are no circumstances where my material will not cover the incident ever. As for computer programs, spreadsheets n such, all you need at the live table is the computer setting on your shoulders. It has more memory than the electronic versions. You don't have to worry about key bounce but brain farts can happen.

    As one DBA to another, have a great weekend. By the way. Where is Kokomojoe4 in our discussions? He not only is a bones math whiz, he also has the rest of the story.

    Dice sets and their residency as you may know have Hierarchy. There are actual pecking orders which enables the user to pick the best sets for there intent.
     
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  12. DeMango, Aug 25, 2017

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    Use all the tools at your disposal to get the money. Is it simpler than that?
     
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  13. von duck, Aug 25, 2017

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    Or just maybe, you're rolls are "random", OH NO! NOT THAT.
     
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  14. lone irish digit, Aug 26, 2017

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    This is Barney,

    Mr. David Guacamole, I need your help very, very much. Mr. LID makes me tracks all of his rolls on his tables or in the casinos. He makes me do meticulous records to ensure getting consistent results of his left and right dices. In over two million rolls of the dices his left dices gets the worse outcomes by far than his right dices which somehow makes him always put a 6 or a 1 on the front and back faces of the left dices.

    Do you track like LID the left and the right dices outcomes in your shoeboxes or do you know differences in outcomes from the left and right dices don't make differences and assume equal control or equal randomness in your tosses. LID does not change his dice sets, like the greatest Americraps, from these tosses he just wants to know which of the dices might fuck him up and where to put the very bad 6 and the 1. If you no track left and right dices outcomes could you get your greatest friend and my new bestest friend the greatest Mad Professor to get LID to stop me from doing such an painful endeavor.


    Thank you very much
     
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  15. Dave G Ct, Aug 26, 2017

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    How many books is Americraps up to?
    In practice I use red & blue dice to track PFH' s.
     
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  16. Dave G Ct, Aug 28, 2017

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    John of the Ct Contingent had a great roll cashing out $700 plus using the Yuri with the All Sevens Set!
     
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  17. Al Levine, Aug 28, 2017

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    Dave, someone said you may be interested in purchasing my throwing and receiving station. I have it for sale at a deep discount for only $100! This is necessary in order to enhance your throwing skills. Let me know. Thanks.

    Lefty Al
     
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  18. random_roller, Aug 28, 2017

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    Speaking of worthless, remember Zune, Kin, Bob, Windows Me, Windows Vista, Windows Mobile, Windows 8, IE6, Steve Ballmer,...

    I'll admit Excel is pretty good. I use it everyday at work for financial modeling and it is light years ahead of Google Sheets in terms of capabilities. I just wish Microsoft would quit moving so many things around with each update. Settle on a layout and leave it alone.

    Fortunately for Bill Gates & MSFT, Dan Bricklin & Bob Frankston had already paved the way with VisiCalc and then Mitch Kapor improved on their efforts with Lotus 1-2-3. So Gates & company already had a template to work from -- as Microsoft always has had.
     
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  19. DeMango, Aug 28, 2017

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    Dave, after all these years, you do not have PFH's memorized from all single and biaxial sets?
     
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  20. Dave G Ct, Aug 28, 2017

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    I know the PFH face outcomes.I practice with the 2 color dice because it is easier to discern especially when they are not hardways
     
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