The Word "FREE", Then You Find Out It Isn't

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  1. Pressit, Sep 12, 2017

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    I was browsing a Blog on craps, when I saw a E-Book advertised as “FREE". FREE, means FREE doesn't it? So I click on the free E-Book link expecting to be taken to a download page, but nothing happened. Tried again, same-same, tried again nothing. Then I notice a little block of text suggesting I first make a minimum donation. So I figured if I am being mislead by the word FREE, what else is contained in this E-Book that is also misleading and useless.

    Hell if they want money for their publacation just ask for it up front, who knows you may even sell a book or 2.
     
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  2. superrick, Sep 12, 2017

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    When it comes to free in the craps world in most cases you pay a high price for that free information! When someone is first putting something out as free then they hit you with a so-called donation run as fast as you can!

    Then if I was you, I would look up the history of whoever was pushing that so-called free book! There are a lot of con men out there just looking to take your money and it's easy to do when you have someone looking for the magic bullet when there is none!

    I see these con men all of the time here in Las Vegas. They get on these craps boards and pretend to be a good guy that knows about the game of craps. You see them posting about how they are winning by coming up with their own little system, then the hit everybody with I can help you win for a small fee! They then come up with a blog or start shooting youtube videos about what they do and how they are winning! Next thing you know they have some guys sucked into what they are doing!
    You don't become an expert on the game of craps after moving to Vegas and living here for a few months or hooking up with some other scum bag selling their BS!

    I will repeat this one more time, there is no Majic Bullet when it comes to craps, you can't buy one off of anybody!
     
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  3. KokomoJoe4, Sep 12, 2017

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    I like the ads on TV where they will send you this great item, a $75 value for only $7.99 plus S & H.

    Better yet, get a second item of the same type for free, just pay additional S & H, and they never state what this charge is.

    "That's right, get a second Trinity Method for free, just pay for the first one, plus S & H."

    As far as I know, at least from what Koganinja tells us in his video on the subject, it is a phenomenal value.
     
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  4. von duck, Sep 12, 2017

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    Arrows, "free" magic arrows, contact Von Duck by PM.:) :cool:.
     
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  5. superrick, Sep 12, 2017

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    Well, I want you to think about this, Trinity means three and there are three guys that are pushing the Trinity Method and they are Harley, Koganinja and let's not forget Poopshoot better known as MarkV on some boards or one or two other names that he goes by!

    No system or method works all of the time, sure you may get lucky every once in a while and win but don't these damn so-called random rollers do the same thing without buying into any system?
     
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  6. KokomoJoe4, Sep 12, 2017

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    SR,

    Who is the Father, Son and Holy Spirit in this trio?
     
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  7. superrick, Sep 12, 2017

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    What my three best friends that walked off with our craps table. Harley, Poopshoot, and Khojaninja or whatever Poopshoot is now going by it could be MarkV if he is still going by that name.

    Some guys will try to sell you anything by feeding you nothing but BS!
     
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  8. Settingcanthurt, Sep 14, 2017

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    Free

    https://adblockplus.org/

    Will not leave my router without it.
     
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  9. superrick, Sep 14, 2017

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    I know a guy that plays a modified Martingale and does okay with it. But as I've always said systems are not worth the room they take up on paper! Today I see him and ask how he was doing and he tells me that he is down $3000.00 just add that to the $9000,00 that he lost last week and we can see why you should never play a system!

    I've watched this guy playing craps for years and was interested in how he was playing his system so today I had a little time to watch what he was doing and ask a few questions about his play.

    I would never play like he does it's so easy to bite the big one with just a few PSO's which he was getting today! You are just getting lucky when you are playing any system and it will fail you at some point in time!
     
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  10. Settingcanthurt, Sep 14, 2017

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    To me the philosophy of systems is play it as long as it's working. Nothing in this game is forever.
    So to have a array of weapons and knowing how to be in the right time. Be random, wish for the right timing. Kiss lady luck when you meet. git when its good to git.
     
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  11. von duck, Sep 14, 2017

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    Yes, this is true, and, every one of us, plays a "system". Even if your system is, to avoid all systems. That too, is a system. So where does that leave us?:cool:.
     
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  12. The Comeback Kid, Sep 14, 2017

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    So how much does this free weekend cost?

     
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  13. yacraps, Sep 15, 2017

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    And there will be free beer here tomorrow :rolleyes:
     
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    Free means free went the way of the horse and carriage...

    Free is the "free trips" I get offered at least twice a week via phone call...

    The best is when it's a female robot voice....and I'll say "you sound like a robot"....then you get a giggle and the robot says "ha, ha, ha...oh, no, I'm a real person".

    LOL....

    What moronic company is lying on their FIRST contact to a potential customer...and then thinks you will conduct financial business with them going forward???
     
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  15. superrick, Sep 15, 2017

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    Yeah, so systems suck but the ones you buy are really for the suckers out there!
     
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  16. von duck, Sep 15, 2017

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    These "systems" just really amount to strategies. They basically amount to one of two things, money management, or where and when we place or remove bets. The best of them don't really hurt your chances, so,no harm, no foul. No, none of them can guarantee a winner, but you have to go to the table with some kind of plan. There is nothing really wrong with having a "scripted" play, many of them are a lot of fun to implement, especially those that totally annoy the crew. :D If somebody wants to shell out a few bucks, instead of "pencil whip" it for themselves, what the hell. We all go to the casinos, and throw away hundreds of dollars, so what makes a guy that spent 40 or 50 bucks on a scripted play, that much more stupid. All of this being said, would anybody like to purchase one of ducks, "guaranteed to annoy the crew" betting systems? :):cool:.
     
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  17. Settingcanthurt, Sep 15, 2017

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    Being in sales off and on I love it when a ad says "Free Gift" .
    If it's free who cares if its a gift. If it's a gift ain't it free anyway??
     
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    Good point...LOL the end sentence almost sounds like George Carlin
     
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    I was invited to a few focus groups when I was still in management and when they asked me about giving the employees "free" shirts or trinkets or whatever, my response was "my guys would rather see a couple bucks more in their check instead of trivets"

    Needless to say they quit inviting me to focus groups. lol.
     
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  20. Settingcanthurt, Sep 16, 2017

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    Do not know you but the way you think is right on. I had 8 years of perfect attendance. Never late, never called in sick. The mangment started a incentive program and rewarded past performance. They took 2 years off my pride and offered me a catalog of junk as a reward.
    From that day forward they paid me to stay home for three days at a time because three counted same as one.
    I knew/felt when it was time to call in sick to stay within guidelines.
    If they wanted loyalty i said to their face "Get a Dog"
     
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