The Superrick, TDVegas, Challenge

Discussion in 'General Craps Discussion' started by superrick, Dec 22, 2016.

  1. gargoil, Dec 25, 2016

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  2. Twelve4s, Dec 25, 2016

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    Praise the DI, and pass the sixes!

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  3. Dave G Ct, Dec 25, 2016

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    Forgot to wish you Merry Christmas! Good luck in getting even
     
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  4. TDVegas, Dec 25, 2016

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    Always Merry Christmas to you, Dave....

    Oh....did I misread. TD is me or tdb....?

    In either case...a good holiday to you Dave.
     
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  5. Dave G Ct, Dec 25, 2016

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    TD is you but why not wish TDB a Happy Holiday as well as OAP.
     
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  6. TDVegas, Dec 25, 2016

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    I wasn't excluding him...just wasn't sure if you were addressing me or him.

    Good wishes to all...
     
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  7. twodicebilly, Dec 26, 2016

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    Sorry if I misread this, but I don't think I did.

    Just because a guy is serious at the table is not what
    I was talking about...

    The unprepared Elk hunter can have a serious look on his
    face, but that wont cover up for his lack of preparation and
    experience.

    I think a random player that plays sober and uses his head
    will do better than some I have seen at the table.

    tdb
     
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  8. TDVegas, Dec 26, 2016

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    I'm not referencing nor using your criteria...I used the word serious and I also applied it to "randie world" under my definition (in the random player world--those who believe in random---they do not believe in "more skilled players"--serious or not)....not someone saying he was a DI, skilled shooter or otherwise. 2 players. Both random. One has a serious demeanor and play. One has a fun demeanor and play. Playing the EXACT same bets. Serious does not mean skilled. I never used the term "lack of prep" or "experience"

    Not talking about a drunk missing bets, making different bets.....both are making the SAME bets. I specifically said that. Not a skilled shooter (we don't believe they exist) vs. a random shooter.

    The expectation for them is the same...regardless if one is there for fun or one is there to be serious. There is no prep in the random world. There is no experience that makes these 2 players different. They are making the SAME EXACT bets each and everytime. One is serious at the table. One is not.

    Serious
    1. grave, somber, sober, unsmiling, poker-faced, stern, grim, dour, humorless, stony-faced.
    Why you continue to inject other "what ifs" is a head scratcher. There are no other variables. Same bets.

    What if he's drunk?
    What if he makes different bets?
    What if one is skilled, one is not?

    Nope....these two players are making the exact same bets for their hour at the table. One is serious about his play. The other is not. Both randies...there are no other variables or considerations.

    The expectation is the exact same.
     
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  9. Dave G Ct, Dec 26, 2016

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    Until the DI community can point to recorded proof of their influence they have to be classified as Random.Put me in that group My job is to provide proof and a Kelly bet increase progression.
     
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  10. TDVegas, Dec 26, 2016

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    Right on, Dave.

    There are several challenges out there...that while not providing proof of anything---do show a DI has the confidence to go do and achieve. I think that's a better offer than just a DI or skilled shooter saying "I can, it's me, I do"....and just expecting universal belief based on word only.

    I think tomp also threw a new one out there yesterday that does not require a DI to achieve an 8 SRR....not a 7.5....not even a 7.....nor a 6.5. All he needs to do is beat 6.0. (A randie)

    6.0001 and he can put a small feather in his cap....say "screw you non believers---I did it".

    Tom is here again next month....and this unskilled player may give it another shot. Will any of the skilled step up?
     
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  11. Liman

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    Id love to challenge tom at the 3 dollar 10 times odds table at fiesta station in boulder city.
    I think my style of betting can beat him with low mins and 10 times odds.
    only problem is the travel.
     
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  12. Dave G Ct, Dec 26, 2016

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    No they will not show up.You know as well as me what fragile egos they have.Love to attack me though - these heroes hate to be called out lol
     
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  13. tabletop123, Dec 26, 2016

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    No one is attacking you Dave! Heck, I don't like Old Shitter either, but no need to Slander Heavy, just because there's one bad apple in the bunch! Now, I WILL agree that the Bad Apple should be tossed to the side ( Especially when money, friendships, & business are involved), but then again, it's Heavy's forum, Heavy's ship, & his command!

    Yes, I was ostracized from the forum, but essentially, I would have "Moved On" anyways! No bad blood!

    We all know that On Axis ain't happening from start to finish, as well as "extreme influence" over the dice!

    Let it go, buy you a REAL table, & learn the TRUTH/s about Dice Influencing! See for yourself! Although I am a strong supporter of Dice Influencing......It ain't ALL that it's cracked up to be!
    However, I wouldn't toss the dice any other way than I've been doing for the last 8 years!
     
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  14. Dave G Ct, Dec 26, 2016

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    Good post Top.I am attacked over there.
     
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  15. tabletop123, Dec 26, 2016

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    Then take some initiative & ostracize yourself, Dave! NOT hard to do! I never go places where I am not welcome! Too many other things to do! Somebody P-L-E-A-S-E tell me why Di's need friends, Acceptance, recognition?

    If I EVER become skilled enough to CONSISTENTLY "send it in" to the Casinos, you guys/s, Gals will no longer have to read Old Top's agonizing Pool, & "How to toss Dice " stories!

    If that day EVER comes.......POOF........I Will vanish like a puff of smoke! No more "Top"! No more stories............Faded into oblivion! Just another Folkslore!

    As TDVegas says: "Anecdotal"!
     
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  16. Liman

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    you bring up other boards almost once a day lately.

    complain and whine over on that board about that board.
     
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  17. superrick, Dec 26, 2016

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    Dave, did you ever think it was you and not them?
     
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  18. Dave G Ct, Dec 26, 2016

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    Noticed when you get attacked you answer back.BTW how would you react if the moderator called you a dumbass and a liar.He did and then saw his name in " lights"
     
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  19. Edward-ky, Dec 26, 2016

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    Dave do you actually know anyone from these forums? Have you ever actually met or intend to meet anyone from these forums?
     
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  20. Dave G Ct, Dec 26, 2016

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    Happy to meet anyone.We have two good casinos here.
     
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