The Serious DI Player

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  1. von duck, Aug 12, 2019

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    What strips? Describe them, and their location on the table. Anybody know what their purpose would be? :confused: Anybody got any conspiracy theories for the "strips", or must I concoct one? :)
     
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  2. von duck, Aug 12, 2019

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    Pre-post reply: "NO!, I'd place my ass, closer to the parking lot" :D
     
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  3. twodicebilly, Aug 12, 2019

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    Dave

    The advanced GTC class teaches on a bouncy table you should shoot
    lower and closer to the back wall.

    I have seen many try and I have done that, but on a bouncy table the shot
    has to be very similar on every roll...most people are not that good and the
    more uniform you get with every shot with the on axis shot the more you are
    exposed to the single or double pitch.

    TDB
     
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    Harrahs has a metal strip on both side of the prop box, this is to prevent sliding,
    it also makes it had for the crew to move the dice from one side to the other with
    the stick.

    TDB
     
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  5. Liman

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    billy, since you mention them often, why does gtc need to teach, why not just up their chip denomination bets and win 10 times, 100 times the money they can make on lessons?
     
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    If you cant figure that out by now, I sure cant make
    you understand


    TDB
     
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    why is something so simple and easy to understand or explain so hard for you to explain to me....Im thinking logically.

    If I could make 1000 dollars a day on average on any job, I wouldn't take a job delivering pizza pies for 10 dollars an hour plus tips.
     
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  8. twodicebilly, Aug 13, 2019

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    First, your conversation is rather simple, another TDV
    reflection on craps typed by you...….the game is random, so
    therefore everything anyone does to change that is useless, therefore any class anyone has is useless, therefore it must
    be some type of fraud.

    Now start at the beginning again...if your first premise is wrong, then it follows everything else is wrong.

    These guys can hold a class and still get in all the playing they
    want, in fact that is part of it. The instructors are from all over
    the country, they get together for the class several times a year and they play before and after the class. That is several weeks of playing with who they think are the best craps players in the country....does not matter what you think....that is what they think.
    Now I am sure they make enough on the classes to pay the travel
    costs for all the instructors, plus they get to play, plus they get to see many of the students that just come in for the class whether or not they actually take the class....

    Liman, these guys love this, this is tight group, and this may be hard for you to understand....they dont care what you think.

    I wish I was part of it, but my beliefs have taken me in a different direction, I wish them all well.

    TDB
     
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  9. Dave G Ct, Aug 13, 2019

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    Question for DeMango

    Little confused- thought casinos use 3/4" dice Just saw Bone Thrower interviewing an official from Midwest Gaming. He said casinos use 775 dice and at his company it is a 12 week back order.
    Any thoughts?
     
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    Yup, both are used. I think 3/4” is just about standard. Remember when Wynn opened they used .775” Seemed to be a big deal.
     
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  11. Dave G Ct, Aug 14, 2019

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    I have 19 mm dice.How do they fit in?
     
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  12. DeMango, Aug 14, 2019

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    .748 Dave. Google is your friend!
     
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    So smaller
     
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  14. Mssthis1, Aug 14, 2019

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    On the other end of the spectrum

    The last time I played at the Pioneer in Laughlin they were using white dice with black pips and rounded corners that felt noticeably larger than what most casinos use.

    Add in the fact that the stick was a dickwad who raked the dice as fast as possible,often before I could see the dice result (I was the only player) and I haven't been back. That was over a year ago so they may have changed since then.

    On the plus side they had a bank of deuces wild that paid 5 to 1 for 4 of a kind the last time I was there. Those are hard to find.
     
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    What a discovery! Interesting short bussers that frequent Laughlin haven't mentioned or made a big deal about how white dice affected play results. :rolleyes:

    Full pay deuces wild machines are rare but a lot easier to find in Lauglin than AssHall. :cool:
     
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  16. Mssthis1, Aug 14, 2019

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    The dice didn't bother me much, the stick person did. I was at SR1 playing solo. The fact that he was leaning in, blocking my view and raking the dice before I could see what they landed on I found to be rather troubling. That's the only craps table where I felt that something shady may be going on.
     
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    Imagine that when JH and TDB are not on here posting there isn’t really any arguing and such. I wonder why that would be?
     
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    I've experience that behavior more times than I care to. It seems to me it occurs most often when tables are empty, the crew is jaw jacking and a player interrupts their private conversation and break from the action. That's when the stick seems to do irritating little things in hopes of shagging you away before you draw more players to the table and put 'em all to work. Some are very good at it and can get into any head at any table position.
     
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    still doesn't answer why they cant get together without having to do classes...the money they could make with their skills, they could surely afford all the travel and food theyd ever want.... I think the truth really is, they hold the classes to support their gambling and trips.
    I have no problems with guys wanting to get together to play and hang out....just don't make it sound like they don't use the tuition to support their own gambling. because then we are back to the tidbits kind of money they get from classes, compared to what they can make with skill, (according to you and the DI believers)


    you can twist it all you want, call me anything you want......tuition money is nothing compared to what someone with the skill they claim to have could make off of tables. Yeah, its a social thing, great, but it seems everyone but you understands that the fees goes towards supporting the instructors gaming
     
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    the 2 nights I played there, I thought the craps table was a serving table, there was a plywood sheet covering half of it....never saw a person near it and we left by 9 or 9:30
    I stuck to the bubble,
    my biggest concern there was that some of those stained hanging ceiling tiles would fall on me or my wife.
     
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