None of the above affects the following: Any Person that would not monitor a Craps Table, to establish Casino Use of Straight, or Biased Dice, would be a total amateur Craps Player. eagleeye2

TDVegas - I am agreeing with Mr. 7uwin .... I wonder what TDVegas thinks about 7uwin's original post that you can win in a casino ?!!! ... naw, not really, I don't care what TDVegas thinks or says - he and his Honda will remain on IGNORE

Claiming you KNOW 7s are showing more than 1/6 rolls. Is claiming you can predict the outcome of a random event I don't need to post one you post this multiple times here EVERY FRIGGING DAY

7uwin, You are a Verified IDIOT! Unbelievable that anyone that claims to have a Brain, could Post the B.S. & LIES that 7uwin just Posted! For those that want to LEARN, rather than accept current or past Casino Employee's B.S., as posted by the Casino Brain Trust, read on! Typical LIE from 7uwin, ""You claim to be able to detect this bias by logging rolls and determining that 7 is showing more than 1/6 rolls. I have NEVER posted, nor insinuated the above, as the LIAR 7uwin Posts! For starters, TWO dice make up the # shot, when playing CRAPS, which 7uwin attempts to ignore. One must ask, "Why Complicate analysis by dealing with the SUM of combinations of #'s, on TWO DICE, that add to 7, like 7uwin; LIES about me doing! Here's the mathematical way to rapidly detect Biased Dice in Play, in an actual Casino! 1) Reduce things to the simplest mode. You can accomplish this by ignoring the SUM of # Combinations adding to 7's & focusing on the individual #'s. As 6~1 Bias has been the most prevalent Bias to date (a shift to 4~3 Bias appears to protect the Casino more) I will focus on it, but any other BIAS uses the same LOGIC presented below! Now, any # appears on a FAIR Die EXACTLY 1 in 6 throws, two dice in PLAY, any # appears on a set of FAIR Dice 1 in 3 throws & that is the KEY! You simply observe (No need to log on paper) the total # of 1's & 6's (on both dice) Vs # of throws. I mentally note this as follows ~ # Low # & # High # Vs # of rolls by a player. Noting that each player chooses from 5 DICE, all of which may not be Biased, (I typically feel that a 3 Biased Vs 2 Fair dice are employed), & therefore with every NEW Shooter, you must start any count over, due to dice change. For a single shooter & the same Dice, This could hypothetically proceed as follows: NOTE: Layout is ~ # 1'S ~ # 6'S ~ # Throws 1, 0, 1 1, 0, 2 3, 0, 3 3, 1, 4 4, 1, 5 4, 1, 6 4, 1, 7 5, 1, 8 5, 1, 9 Now, what would we have here? Well, we observed 5 1's in 9 throws of the Dice, when FAIR dice would have produced around 3 1's. The 5 1's observed, should have taken about 5 * 3 or 15 rolls of the dice, not 9. Prognosis, Highly Likely that 1~6 Biased Dice are in Play, with the above! Should your Total Count of any single # approach the Magic # of 3 Times the # of rolls, the Dice in Play are likely Fair for that #. The exact same technique can be used for; 3~4 & 2~5 Biased dice. When generating your Counts, it's best to make a note of the Dice Combination that produced the 7-Out for each shooter. Should you see say three out of four 7-Outs as 3-4, it's advisable to begin a Count of 3's & 4's Vs # of Rolls. eagleeye2

NOTE: Layout is ~ # 1'S ~ # 6'S ~ # Throws 1, 0, 1 1, 0, 2 3, 0, 3 3, 1, 4 4, 1, 5 4, 1, 6 4, 1, 7 5, 1, 8 5, 1, 9 ============================================ Does anybody care to explain the layout? I can't work it out. Looks confusing to me. Tks for any explanation.

oldgrasshopper, You must not comprehend, as it is explained EXACTLY as you post it! To elaborate, one must keep a running COUNT of the (# of 1's & 6's) in this example vs the # or ROLLS. In the example, there are 9 Rolls, 5, 1's & 1, 6. Now, as any # on a fair DIE occurs but ONCE in 6 Rolls, count the #'s being observed here, but do SO on BOTH dice. This we have each # appearing ONCE Every 3 Rolls. To get FIVE ONES should take 5 TIMES 3 or 15 Rolls, NOT 9 Rolls & the Dice are likely Biased to the 1). Repeat on the next shooter, assuming you get that disproportional # of 1's, BINGO, the Dice are BIASED. Note, any shooter having 6 or less Rolls should be ignored, as the sample is considered to small. eagleeye2

7uwin , Sorry, but you post VERIFIES that you are an IDIOT! ZERO comprehension for you, DUH. My post is based upon evaluating DICE as to their being FAIR or BIASED, period. When a pair of DICE have proven themselves to be BIASED; yes, they absolutely will Produce (7's) at a rate greater than 1 in 6 ROLLS! Rolling DICE that have been verified as BIASED is NOT ""Predicting the outcome of a random event"" as you incorrectly POST! eagleeye2

And I love posters who post to posters that haven't posted in years.(there I go using that word again is this a word..posted) I need some luv here