The bohunk 6 has NOT ended!

Discussion in 'General Craps Discussion' started by TDVegas, Dec 15, 2016.

  1. tabletop123, Dec 21, 2016

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    Yeah, you are mightily mistaken. Just off the top of my head, I can recall AT LEAST 10 "Nut Clipping" post of mine! I am NOT Obie 1!

    However, I will salt away your Kelly progression post. Thanks for posting it!
     
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  2. TDVegas, Dec 21, 2016

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    As I stated on another thread, Rick. You want to "prove" you are better shooter, a skilled shooter, know more about the tables, the dice, the conditions, how to play----than unskilled TDVegas, who "doesn't know a damn thing about this game" or "real tables" or dice or "how to play"...

    Then lets go 1 on 1. Lets see who is a skilled shooter and who is all bluster and talk.

    I don't want your money--this is simply a test of who is skilled and who isn't. If I win or lose I will make a donation to Jacob.

    The skilled master, the guy who can go out and win with his superior skills vs. "the guy who doesn't even pick up dice" other than the bohunk. The guy who doesn't even play "real" tables. Maybe you know of someone with an empty table to use to simplify this. Does not matter to me.

    Lets set up a some kind of skill challenge and see who is better. The "best of Vegas" vs. the "nobody of Vegas"....6's...9's...8's....SRR...whatever.

    I say you'll never do it because the backlash you will face when you lose to this "nobody player" will reverberate across Vegas.

    "Superrick lost to Bubbler TDVegas"!!!....stop the presses.

    If you win...you have more ammo in your fight that I'm just an unskilled player playing for fun.

    If you lose...
    You'll say "Oh, he just got lucky"

    and I'll say "YES, YES...the game of craps is LUCK, not skill".
    "I've proven my point"

    Now, if we switch it around to tennis or golf....unskilled vs. skilled---You have ZERO chance to win. In craps....I have a 50/50 shot at beating you (even with NO skill whatsoever) and while I typically don't like just 50/50 when I do something----I'd rather trust my skill (like golf or tennis)----I'll give it a shot.

    I don't think you are bad shooter...just that you are no better than me.
     
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  3. random_roller, Dec 21, 2016

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    If it's working for you at the craps tables, why not continue that type of play?

    I think I'm going to adopt your approach more in 2017, at least on the craps table. Oh, and bet less aggressively on other shooters, although I think I've been telling myself to do just that for a few years.
     
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  4. TDVegas, Dec 21, 2016

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    LOL...I have no need for socializing, tossing or having fun if I can win $100 in 5 minutes.

    Show me the door. I'll be back tomorrow.
     
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  5. tabletop123, Dec 21, 2016

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    Yes, it works for me. & it MIGHT work for you too! I simply cannot understand why ANYONE ( Di or not) would fare to stand at a Craps Table for more than 30 minutes so that the House Edge can constantly grind you down.

    Not to mention the FACT that no amount of skill, luck, will hold up over playing long, drawn out sessions!

    $25 an hour is enough punching a clock, but NOT enough in the Casinos! Do a little experiment for me........Try to win ONLY a measly $25, & immediately go have lunch/dinner!

    Return & try to win ONLY another $25, & immediately go & take a shit!
    Lol.

    All I am saying is that it's not a monumental task to win extremely small amounts (with the proper bankroll), & immediately end the session!

    Now, "you know who" will chime in & say "It doesn't matter, it's all one big session, & taking breaks, & spending short times at the table ain't gonna help you!

    I am NOT gonna debate........Just give it a shot, & report your progress (or lack thereof) to the forum!

    Let it be known that I am NOT suggesting this as advantage play, or a Golden Goose....... Just making a suggestion!



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  6. tabletop123, Dec 21, 2016

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    Pretty hard to win $100 in five minutes betting the $1 bubble machine, TD!
     
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  7. TDVegas, Dec 21, 2016

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    I know...I want to follow the guy who loads $360, hits 2 times and runs for the door.

    I'll piggy back his bets.
     
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  8. random_roller, Dec 21, 2016

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    TDV has posted some crazy screen shots with 6 or 7 natural winners on the come out roll.

    Since I often play at $25 craps tables, I probably won't be leaving after winning $25. Scratch that, I won't be leaving after a $25 win, lol. Let's see -- Buy in for $X before new shooter. $25 PL bet. 1st toss is a 7. Winner. Collect my $25 winnings. Okay, color me up!

    Perhaps $75-$100 and I'll take a break for a while, or at least bank the chips and leave if my "winnings" are reduced to $50. Of course, if the table is hot, I'm staying!!
     
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  9. James Hall, Dec 21, 2016

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    I have no idea now what they do , all that was a few years ago
    I'm not interested in the doo dads
    just give me cash
     
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  10. twodicebilly, Dec 21, 2016

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    Tabletop

    I am almost as bad....my friends play 8 hours a night, I play a few hands
    and if I am ahead I get out. If my shot is not the way I want, I do stay
    longer but I am only betting a $5 pass line bet as I use their table
    for practice.

    I really like playing on my table and helping others with their
    shots on my table, I really like forums that deal with craps, but
    making money and having fun at the table do not mix.

    twodicebilly

    P.S. with one exception... I would greatly enjoy playing with TDV
    for three days and feel his money hit my pocket....
     
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  11. tabletop123, Dec 21, 2016

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    Yeah, you've got that right! If my toss is "For Shit", I simply quit! The problem is that SOMETIMRS there is nothing wrong with your toss!

    Some days you're gonna get "Funky: results tossing PERFECTLY, & that"s Just the way it is! You are trying to influence the dice, because you CERTAINLY can't control them!

    All this bullshit about having a "Second" pair of eyes to critique your toss when things get Funky is........WELL..........SHIT!

    If YOU cannot figure out if IT IS YOUR TOSS gone awry, & NOT just "another fucked up day", you probably have NOT spent enough time practicing!

    Some days the release & landings are perfect, but results are dismal!

    Such is the art of TRYING to influence the dice roll! It's not a perfect Science even when you toss the dice perfectly!
     
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  12. hartzehn22, Dec 21, 2016

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    TDV- the tables there suck and they are bouncy as hell BUT for those that play bubble craps I'm thinking it doesn't really matter what kind of surface the die are landing on. Watching those big die get flung around in the bubble is pretty entertaining.

    Obviously your observations as a non DI are quite different than mine. I'm not saying you are WRONG but obviously we have different perceptions of how die react on a table surface. And even though I respect OAP's opinion most of the time, I will have to respectfully disagree and say that the Red Rock Casino tables are crappy for dice setters. Bouncy tables....my arse???? very much so...But honestly TDV, it shouldn't really matter to you if the tables are bouncy or hard as slate cuz you ain't got no influence so what does it matter to you??? And just because BTW did well on those tables doesn't mean the tables are not bouncy. People can win on bouncy tables too. I've seen it happen.
     
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  13. TDVegas, Dec 21, 2016

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    That's right. Betweenthelines did. Rick advised ALL players not to play on those tables. I'm just pointing out he WON on those "bouncy" tables.

    Crappy advice for BTL...based on his win. No?
     
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  14. hartzehn22, Dec 21, 2016

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    Good for Betweenthelines. I'm always happy when craps players walk away winners. My point is that bouncy tables for me are very unpredictable. I might as well shoot with my eyes closed and do a hell Mary reversal over my shoulder toss. Oh and anyone that does set the die on tables like the ones at Red Rock are IMO wasting their friggin time and money. They should just fling them down there like the chicken feeders do and say a little craps prayer to the money god and then hasta la vista to their $$. NO of course not all craps player who play at Red Rock lose ALL of the time but I bet their hold on craps is high than the average Las Vegas casino (and no I don't know the numbers - I'm guesstimating).
     
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  15. TDVegas, Dec 21, 2016

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    My ONLY point is Rick is advising ALL players not to play on those tables. I'm merely pointing out this "hardline" statement was proven wrong by BTL's recent success.

    You are free to make judgements for a DI....but again, his statement was a blanket statement for ALL players to avoid it.

    Tomp won!!
     
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  16. hartzehn22, Dec 21, 2016

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    I think Rick advice is probably sound and yes I have to agree with him that Red Rock's tables suck and any serious craps player should play elsewhere. I know. how about this for advice to any and all craps players that really want to know how bad the tables are at Red Rock. All they need to do is go there, shoot on them and see for themselves. There billfold will tell the story over a few short sessions. That's my opinion but I'm stating this from a DI perspective. Most craps players don't give a friggin rats a$$ what kind of table surface they are playing on. They are there to simply gamble. Hell for many players the die could bounce to China and back and they wouldn't have any kind of recognition about the table surface. Personally, I have certain play restrictions and table surfaces are one variable that is vitally important and is always taken into consideration.
     
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  17. hartzehn22, Dec 21, 2016

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    TDV- Ok but honestly I don't care about Rick's hardline statement. I do think he has the craps players best interest at heart not the friggin casino's bottom line.
     
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  18. TDVegas, Dec 21, 2016

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    Sigh....again I'm ONLY pointing out his statement proved out false for a most recent player. The tables were good for him. Who's discussing the casinos bottom line? I'm just pointing out he's advising ALL players to avoid the place. I disagree. I give you a winner. BTL.

    My god, why keep arguing? Admit he did well. He liked the tables. He dismissed Ricks advice....AND HE WON!!

    If as a DI..you want to listen to his hardline stance to avoid the place? Do it.
     
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  19. hartzehn22, Dec 21, 2016

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    TDV- I always welcome winners at the craps tables. Don't we all want to win? I think Rick's advice is sound that's all but people can and will play craps where ever the hell they want - bouncy tables or not. I think you are going a little over board with this. Rick is a helpful guy when it comes to craps and I do think he has good advice especially when it comes to craps play and play at casinos in Las Vegas. He's been playing in Vegas for a long time and knows the tables. So when he states something like don't play at Red Rock, what can it hurt. You don't have to listen to him. Betweenthelines obviously didn't take his advice and won. Winning does occur on bouncy tables but my experiences on bouncy tables has always been, the bouncier the table the less my advantage and I know this for a fact. Why play on them when you have other opportunities? I think all serious craps players that are sensitive to table conditions and that believe in control or influence would tend to agree with me. Now I'm not trying to argue here but just trying to reiterate from my DI perspective - why I view Red Rocks tables as crap! I do like their buffet and theater so I go there for that.
     
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  20. TDVegas, Dec 22, 2016

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    Again, I think he's doing a disservice to craps by advising people not to play there. I give you a craps WINNER....at RR....on so called "bouncy" tables.

    He wasn't just advising skilled shooters or DI from playing there. He's advising EVERYONE. I think he's wrong...and I present my evidence. A winner. What more do you want?

    Plus, it's a damn fine casino resort.
     
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