The bohunk 6 has NOT ended!

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  1. James Hall, Dec 20, 2016

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    the one I am thinking of is across the street from MSS where you cross over the street on the overpass walkway
    played there once several years ago didn't like the tables you could be right
    I don't play down there very often
    played Plaza and Four Queens about three years ago , my wife was in Vegas for a business meeting
    she stayed at New York for 4 days , I stayed at Fremont
    to check out the down town tables
    funny thing I had a hell of a roll on the Fremont $3 table
    It was packed
     
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  2. Edward-ky, Dec 20, 2016

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    I have never seen so many whining little bit he's in one place in all my life. Who gives a shit what people say on a mostly entirely anonymous message board. I think is so funny that people want so bad to believe they have DI skills. Who gives a shit just go do your thing. The only guy I find credible with the DI is tabletop. He actually comes across as a honest person in that regard. But I am sure the whiny little bitches will stay whiny little bitches. I do enjoy reading there crybaby posts.
     
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  3. tabletop123, Dec 20, 2016

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    That's because old Top tells it like it is! I wish ( more than any other Di living) That Dice Influencing was a Golden Goose, but it's NOT!

    You spend MANY years developing a Toss/s that only allows you control up until the point of your release of the dice. Anything more, & you are at the mercy of that first initial table contact! (Bounce)

    Even when I am at a empty table & I am the only shooter, I try to slow the game down to a Snail's pace, because I realize that EVEN WITH INFLUENCE, The law of large numbers is gonna catch up with you!

    Why do you think the Stickman keeps shoving those dice back to you as quickly as he/she can? ROLLS PER HOUR!

    The Casino realizes that the more you toss, the worse things will get! That's a FACT! When shooting solo, I am doing EVERYTHING in my power to slow down the game!

    Blow my nose, scratch my ass! A bathroom break....... Whatever it takes in order to NOT toss the dice too many times! Advantage is NOT constant, & it CERTAINLY doesn't apply to every roll!

    Now, I realize that the rebuttal is: If you are influencing the dice, you want to toss as much as you can. WRONG!

    Tell you what.......Old Top has a tendency to run his mouth a little too much sometimes! I'll stop right here, & let you guys figure it out for yourselves!

    Happy Holidays, & I'll see you at the Top!
     
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  4. Edward-ky, Dec 20, 2016

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    Foe me I don't like being at the table by myself. I like a break after I toss. And if the rolls aren't very good the more you are tossing the worse it can get. I like about 3 people or 4 that way I can toss a good number of times but not too much. I think I can get into a better rhythm that way.
     
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  5. twodicebilly, Dec 21, 2016

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    you said ...
    What you guys fail to realize is that if you indeed possess any talent, it is extremely marginal, fleeting, & the law of large numbers WILL eventually trump THAT VERY SLIM edge that you MIGHT posses, the longer that you toss the dice!

    Now, I DO NOT claim to be a advantage player, or a Expert Tosser, but what I DO claim is that I was ONCE A EXPERT LOSER!( seems to be a lot of those floating around, huh?)

    So, Two Dice, be careful with your words, because there ARE some members on this forum that DO know how to play the game of Craps (tight as a drum), & do stand a very good chance at winning!

    I fancy myself as a Damned good player, but NOT because I am anything special, but more so from so many years of getting my nuts clipped!

    I agree with that......I more than most have indicated how hard it is to get any advantage, how hard
    it is to keep it and that for the vast majority of the players, it is impossible to take the same
    advantage to the casino or every casino.

    TDV and you as well as betweenthelines keep indicating that people talk about dice control
    and on and on because their ego is tied to that...... for my part I think that is 100% false, I
    see it as the other way around.....Anyone that has practiced hundreds of hours already
    has the belief in what they are doing....I feel that it is people like TDV that have an ego
    problem because what feeds their ego is the constant challenge to what anyone else says.
    If I say I took my trip this spring and ended with an 8.1 SRR that's is what I did... but see the
    only way TDV cane feel good about himself is to challenge that.... If James says he
    can throw more 6's than TDV or you or I..... that did not bother you or I, but it bothersTDV....
    If another player indicates he wins more than he loses that did not bother you or I, but it
    drives TDV nuts...


    The EGO problem is TDV's and others.... think about it... I don't think you have seen
    any person that feels like or claims to be a DI insult any other player on here that
    indicated they could do this or that.... for my part I don't care.... what some one else
    says they can or cant do has nothing to do with the money I make or the money I
    lose.

    YOU say your a damned good player..... great..... I have no reason to question that,
    but if you are a good player....it is because you have done something at the table
    better than most.....try indicating what you have done that you feel makes you a
    better player.... then see what response you get from TDV.

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  6. Twelve4s, Dec 21, 2016

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    I have had some fun times and good rolls at the Fremont. Did you get a gold jacket for making 45 rolls? I like the digital counter they have on that $3 table.
     
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  7. James Hall, Dec 21, 2016

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    The California is the one I was thinking of
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    TDB
    Let me tell you a little secret , I think that probably some of the skilled players on this forum hold the same opinion of Table Top that I do
    I can't help but think that "OLD TOP" is a much better and more successful player than he would have many believe
    simply because he wants to get along with everyone on this forum
    I think if he disclosed his actual abilities he would get a lot of flack from some on the forum
    In short I think he is much better than he will say on a public forum
    I could be wrong but I doubt it very much
     
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  8. James Hall, Dec 21, 2016

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    I don't take the rewards , the only ones I have taken were leather jackets from Caesars
    I took one for my wife and one for my daughter
    I do like the counter , some of the Mesa guys play there on occasion to check their game
    The bounce characteristic of that table suits us to a tee
     
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  9. random_roller, Dec 21, 2016

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    Nice win inside the casino, OAP. Hopefully nothing was stolen that can't be replaced. Perhaps surveillance cameras covering the parking lot can help police identify the perpetrators.
     
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  10. James Hall, Dec 21, 2016

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    that type of crime is rarely prosecuted , so difficult to catch those guys
     
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  11. Twelve4s, Dec 21, 2016

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    What are the requirements for a leather jacket at Caesars? Number of rolls?
     
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  12. tabletop123, Dec 21, 2016

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    [/QUOTE]
    Well, I think that TDV has a problem with people saying that they win more than they lose, & that there are people that make a living playing craps!

    My contention is that you CAN make supplemental income playing the game! The problem is that in order to do this you absolutely MUST play on low minimum tables!

    Why? So that you don't go "belly-up, & lose your bankroll! You see, I believe in Regression play for the talented tosser, & (in my opinion) a $5 table is the best way to employ regressions with very little risk!

    I absolutely love $66 inside for one hit, & regress to $22 inside or regress down to a $6 6&8 on a $5 table!

    Personally, I think I could scrape out a pretty good supplimental income if I had the luxury of playing on only $5 tables! Just one hit & you are off & running!

    Yeah, yeah, I know......you have to get THAT first hit before you can regress! Well, call it what you'd like, but Old Top is gonna get that first hit at a pretty consistent clip!

    Now, TD's rebuttal will be: If you can do it on $5 tables, you can do it on $25 tables!

    I just don't like risking regression moves on higher denominational tables, because if you get unlucky & toss a few "bricks", you could lose your whole bankroll!

    The $5 tables affords you the ability to bounce back with very little risk!

    You see, Old Top realizes what Dice Influencing REALLY is, so therefore I have NO DESIRE to bet "High as the sky"!

    Why would i, when I KNOW that Dice Influencing is ONLY a PUBIC HAIR better than random ( including THE VERY BEST of shooters)!

    My ego, Bankroll, Money Management, Discipline, & Toss are intact, but MOST importantly, I am World Class, & totally unflappable, when fleeing to the Cashier's Cage!

    Happy Holidays, & I'll see you at the Top!
     
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  13. Twelve4s, Dec 21, 2016

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    They might not catch the guys that ripped off OAP, but they could be laying for the next time.

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  14. tabletop123, Dec 21, 2016

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    Let me tell you a little secret , I think that probably some of the skilled players on this forum hold the same opinion of Table Top that I do
    I can't help but think that "OLD TOP" is a much better and more successful player than he would have many believe
    simply because he wants to get along with everyone on this forum
    I think if he disclosed his actual abilities he would get a lot of flack from some on the forum
    In short I think he is much better than he will say on a public forum
    I could be wrong but I doubt it very much[/QUOTE]
    TDB
    Let me tell you a little secret , I think that probably some of the skilled players on this forum hold the same opinion of Table Top that I do
    I can't help but think that "OLD TOP" is a much better and more successful player than he would have many believe
    simply because he wants to get along with everyone on this forum
    I think if he disclosed his actual abilities he would get a lot of flack from some on the forum
    In short I think he is much better than he will say on a public forum
    I could be wrong but I doubt it very much[/QUOTE]
    Loose lips............. You know the rest ! Old Top does so well because by the time that most of you have settled in & began your sessions, Old zTopb
     
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  15. tabletop123, Dec 21, 2016

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    Let me tell you a little secret , I think that probably some of the skilled players on this forum hold the same opinion of Table Top that I do
    I can't help but think that "OLD TOP" is a much better and more successful player than he would have many believe
    simply because he wants to get along with everyone on this forum
    I think if he disclosed his actual abilities he would get a lot of flack from some on the forum
    In short I think he is much better than he will say on a public forum
    I could be wrong but I doubt it very much[/QUOTE]
    Loose lips............. You know the rest ! Old Top does so well because by the time that most of you have settled in & began your sessions, Old zTopb[/QUOTE]
    Continued......Old Top is at the Cashier's cage!" Now, i realize that a person that THINKS they influence the dice should want to duke it out with the Casinos! You know.........Pull on Superman's cape! Not me! My REAL goal is to toss ONLY one hand & quit the session, however most times I end up tossing 2-3"hands, but NEVER more than 3 hands during a session.

    I am NOT a Dice Influencer! Call me a "Quit" Influencer! Ten minute sessions (unless i catch a good gear) are Music to my ears!
     
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  16. Twelve4s, Dec 21, 2016

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    Great way to slow down the game is by making as many prop bets as possible in the strangest configurations.
     
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  17. random_roller, Dec 21, 2016

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    Agree it's often difficult to catch a thief, but in this case there should be surveillance footage. Perhaps not of the actual incident, but +/- 30 seconds of vehicle/pedestrian traffic near where OAP was parked might be a good enough starting point, especially if this was not an isolated incident. There could be a group of thieves involved targeting vehicles parked at the various casinos in the area. But if it's an isolated incident and the dollar value of stolen property isn't high, the police likely won't be aggressively pursuing the case (unless the victim was the mayor's son...).

    Prosecution is a different issue. If police make an arrest and there is sufficient evidence to obtain a conviction, it really depends upon the dollar amount involved, whether or not there are multiple related crimes committed by the same person(s), prior offenses (if any), and priorities/resource constraints (prosecutor's office). For misdemeanor theft (not part of an organized ring), once caught the defendant, as part of a plea deal, will often end up paying a fine and moving on.
     
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  18. Onautopilot, Dec 21, 2016

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    They got two tool boxes, one standard and one metric. But they missed some other very expensive tools and other stuff. Probably not worth more than a couple hundred dollars. I reckon I forgot to lock the tailgate that night. I elected not to pursue the security camera thing at the time, probably should have......I hate thieves!
     
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  19. superrick, Dec 21, 2016

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    No, because I would never get a players card there and you need one to get that stupid jacket! Craps players go out of their way for stupid things like a jacket or anything else they are giving away in the casinos.
     
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  20. random_roller, Dec 21, 2016

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    Thieves are despicable. And at that dollar amount, it likely isn't worth pursuing an insurance claim.

    Perhaps you go back to the casino, file a report with security, and then talk with a casino host...and perhaps get some comped play and/or a meal or 2.
     
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