THE 5 COUNT

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  1. Twelve4s, Apr 18, 2017

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    Please point out any B.S. you found in badddoin's post?

    He said staying out of the casino preserves one's bankroll.

    Seems like a Fact to me.
     
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  2. direct007, Apr 29, 2017

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    I've been using the 5 count for about 2 weeks now. (In that 2 week period, I've been to the casino 5 times). I never realized how many shooters seven out within 5 rolls until using this method. Remember you have to start with a box number and end with a box number, so for example...if 7, 3, 2 are the first 3 rolls, then 5, 6, 12, 2, 4 are the next rolls, you may actually be waiting more than 5 rolls to place a bet, but after having decent rolls myself for quite a while and getting frustrated on point, 7 shooters, I rather wait it out. It's easy to keep track by placing a white chip in front of you every time a number is rolled until you have 5 white chips. In one session, it went around the table to every shooter and they all sevened out within 5 rolls. Half the people at the table got wiped out. I can assure you, the number of people making their point or repetitive numbers in the first 5 rolls are a lot less than the number of people who seven out during this time. And yes, there are people that make it 5 rolls, you place a bet and then they seven out two rolls later, but it's a lot less than you would think. My goal is to get on a hot shooter and missing 5 rolls on a hot shooter is a very small compromise compared to losing about $110 on every shooter that gets the dice and sevens out in 5 rolls. ($110 is my average spread when I bet).
     
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  3. basicstrategy777, Apr 29, 2017

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    It is difficult to poo-poo the 5 count.

    If most hands are short affairs.......if you want to avoid losses early in the hand (especially getting caught in a bad streak shooter after shooter)......if you believe in trends and still can participate in a long shoot......if one of your primary objectives is to avoid early losses.......if there is no contest when comparing what you make early verses what you lose early.............the 5 count should be given consideration. What's the worse that can happen ?

    I go thru the come box early with no odds....this is my 5 count. I'm in the game but won't get killed by early losses.

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  4. Twelve4s, Apr 29, 2017

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    We're there any darksiders at this table making bank? Did you see poopshoot?
     
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  5. Twelve4s, Apr 29, 2017

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    When do you add odds?
     
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    no darksiders, but in retrospect, they would have cleaned up. After it went around once, things started heating up so it would have been short lived for a darksider as well.
     
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  7. Twelve4s, Apr 29, 2017

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    I like come bets too, even though it's been proven here, that they suck.
     
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  8. basicstrategy777, Apr 29, 2017

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    I add odds after about 5 tosses.....right before the 7 shows.

    After shooter qualifies you have a PL bet....then come bet, acts as hedge against a 7 ( your even)......then another come bet acts as hedge against the 7 ( you are down 1 unit).....then another come bet acts as hedge against the 7 ( you are down 2 units )........at this point you can start adding minimum odds . No more betting until you get some hits; if you do, start going thru the come box again( I will make field bet if 2 of non-field numbers covered by come bets and use winnings to subsidize comeodds and hedge against 2/312. I will continue to go thru come box till all numbers covered, increasing odds bets with win. eventually will replace all come bets with place bets....of course, this assumes things are going well. Hard way bets will be made if they start showing; horn bets will be made upon seeing a craps # ; bird-balls and atomic craps will be made on a hunch ; 15% of buy in spent on prop bets, selectively. All down upon feeling the 7 is due or the voices speak.

    That's pretty much how I play.

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    Not 100%, effective in preserving your bankroll, some guys will send their money to T.D. And never set foot in a casino. Gamblers will usually FIND a way to deplete their bankroll, there're very resourceful, at that.
     
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    I just don't have the patience to wait for a 5 count. My betting levels are small...it makes little difference. Instead of an hour session....my session will turn into 2 hours with the same amount of wagers.

    Besides, I don't think it works....other than allowing time to twiddle my fingers;)
     
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    Well, you do have hit the number twice to win once;)
     
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  12. Twelve4s, Apr 30, 2017

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    I've been running this strategy on my sim, so far so good. It's going into my bag of tricks, along with OAP's.

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  13. Twelve4s, Apr 30, 2017

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    If you're at a table that cold, why not walk away? There are lots of alternatives in a casino/casinos. Not to mention, a trip to Red Rocks Park.
     
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    ................which is measurably better than the TUMA. :eek:
     
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    make believe fairy dust.
    a promotional tool used to sell books, videos, classes, etc.
     
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  16. Settingcanthurt, Apr 30, 2017

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    Holding your breath through the "Dumbass" spray, as they say here.
     
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    It's a damn crap shoot huh??
     
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    So white chips and all. Can you start with five, Play the dont and take away chips after the first toss???
     
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  19. Twelve4s, Apr 30, 2017

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    Unrelated heads up.

    Are you interested in Super Bowl betting opportunity?

    See biased dice thread. TDV is handling the action.
     
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  20. Settingcanthurt, Apr 30, 2017

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    Walk away? You there to gamble or not???

    Flip a coin. Heads you play right, Tails you go dark. 5 count later you evaluate and flip a coin again if needed.
    Do you press the last winner?? Flip a coin. Heads ya press, Tails you collect.

    I can see it now... All these craps players flipping coins after every roll.....
     
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