I'm beginning to wish that I could find more time to get into the casino to try and work at this intangible concept. Over the years, I have thought about and at tried out any number of methods of play, never finding any kind of good, consistent winning method. Note - I have never had the gumption to play a true Martingale, not because I do not think it will work, it obviously will, almost but not quite always. Problem is that I am too cheap to buy-in for the thousands of dollars that MIGHT be needed in that endeavor, and my typical $300 buy-in won't cut it for that type of play. I think it was Superrick who has told us that he plays differently all the time. This leads me to think that the method of play will depend on what is seen to happen. It doesn't take a genius like LID or Planck to put out a bet on the Five when someone is seen to be rolling a lot of them. Wonder why I never go out on such a number in that situation? I guess that it also follows that when one is seeing dice show a lot of or that outside numbers and horns might be the ticket. When damn near every shooter is showing short, unproductive rolls, maybe the DP and DC are the way to play. Now most of us believe that one roll has nothing to do with the next, and that the ten is not necessarily due because it hasn't shown in about 40 rolls now, but let's admit it, craps is a game that is best pursued by taking advantage of streaks, which must first be recognized and secondly properly bet into. No, I do not have any hope of finding a consistent way to beat the game. In fact, until the past 2 years or so, I have done remarkably well with the method of play I long ago decided worked best for me. I'm going to play a lot of craps when on vacation over Christmas, and intend to try to figure out what the dice are giving. I consider it of some advantage to know what the dice say. Maybe this will have something to do with what they give, if they are in a giving mood.